Bullet test in .357

[4060MAY]

I picked up a sealed,12# steel can of SR7625, 100.00, nobody wanted it
4.7 grains 311008, 32-20, Win Lowall, won the local Silhouette match many time with it
shoot the same load in my .357 Ruger security six, LEE 358-158-rf,I hit the paper regularly, about as good as I can shoot now..
the powder seems to be close to Unique/Herco, depending on the cartridge, ther was an article in the Fouling Shot about SR7625
I ask the Shotgunners all the time if they have any they don't want, no luck lately

 

[Mainiac]

Never shot 7625,,never even seen it for sale.

 

[fiver]

yeah Jeff. about 4grs. of 231 is pretty light, but it seems to get the bullet there.
i've shot a lot of it under both the 125rnfp's and 358477's
the 125's in LC 38 cases are good enough for me to scare the jezus out of pine squirrels and even occasionally time the wiggle well enough to actually hit one.
the 477's will fly over a couple hundred yds of open ground and stay on a 2'X3' dinger.

 

[RicinYakima]

Never shot 7625,,never even seen it for sale.

Sadly it was discontinued in 2012 along with all the Sporting Rifle powders: 7625, 4756 4759. They were just too expensive to make.

 

[Mainiac]

4756 ive used,dont recall anything earth shaking about it.ken waters was fond of it,as i recall.

 

[Mainiac]

The mp 275 copy,was the clear winner today.
40 degrees and no sun,,no wind,,needless to say,the ol 586 shot some more splendid groups!

 

[fiver]

i'm pretty fond of 4756 too.
bout the time they stopped making it i found plenty of uses for it.
it's real good in the 44 mag and 45 Colt, and it made some nasty 10-12ga. steel shot loads.

 

[RicinYakima]

4756 ive used,dont recall anything earth shaking about it.ken waters was fond of it,as i recall.

Easy to use with standard primers, clean burning and appeared to be able to get more velocity with less pressure than Unique. Plus it was much cheaper than Unique for years and shotgunners used it.

 

[bruce381]

sounds like i will get some 358311 loaded up too

 

[CZ93X62]

Substitute Herco for SR-4756 at 95% the given charge weight of the 4756 and things work well--even in 32/20 revolvers, which is what the late Ken Waters' Pet Load was in the 32/20 for wheelguns--6.0 x 4756 for 115-120 grain bullets. 5.7 x Herco and a CCI #500 under a 115-120 grain casting gives about 875-900 FPS from a 5" barrel--all 3 of mine.

 

[358156 hp]

makes you wonder if you loaded them backwards don't it?

I prefer DEWCs, and I do load them backwards

 

[358156 hp]

this is gonna sound silly then.
one of my best 38 [in 357 brass] target loads is a whole bunch of bulls-eye [7grs] and a 150gr wad cutter... with a magnum primer.
no idea,, but it shoots good.

Look at all these sacred rules you broke. One of the best shooting wadcutter loads I ever shot used 358091 and a chunky dose of 2400 in 357 cases. It was a standard Lyman load, straight out of the Pistol & Revolver Handbook. This was one of the causes of my unfortunate wadcutter addiction.

 

[358156 hp]

Sadly it was discontinued in 2012 along with all the Sporting Rifle powders: 7625, 4756 4759. They were just too expensive to make.

LOL, I still have at least one lb of each left. I need to shoot more often.

 

[fiver]

funny how they become ''TOO EXPENSIVE'' right when all those clean waste standards come out ain't it.
the solvent wash done them in more than anything else.

 

[Jeff H]

funny how they become ''TOO EXPENSIVE'' right when all those clean waste standards come out ain't it.
the solvent wash done them in more than anything else.

I'm all about "'cheaper to make" and would spend the time to experiment to see ho well I could do with "cheaper," but "cheaper to make" doesn't seem to cascade down to the retail level.

 

[RicinYakima]

I'm all about "'cheaper to make" and would spend the time to experiment to see ho well I could do with "cheaper," but "cheaper to make" doesn't seem to cascade down to the retail level.

Of course not, how to you pay the dividends to the stock holders if you don't keep at least the same profit margin? There is a reason that on Hodgdon and Alliant are the only powder retailers left in the US. Don't know how long Shooters World can last with all EU powders going to the Wars going on in Europe, Middle East and Africa.

"Health & Safety and the EPA is the primary reason that all extruded powders are made outside of the USA. Ball types manufacture uses non-inflammable / explosive slurries with material piped between processes until the little balls are distilled out at a late stage for chemical treatments and grading. This method also allows old out of date propellants to be recycled alongside fresh ingredients reducing costs.

Extruded powders start by dissolving cellulose in powerful acids, a dangerous exothermic process and whose products are immediately highly explosive and inflammable, then further inherently dangerous processes and solvents are used to convert 'guncotton' into usable propellants. Many of the materials used are corrosive and toxic, likewise creating waste and pollution issues that have to be dealt with nowadays, not just dumped into waste ground or rivers as would once have been done."

 

[Tomme boy]

7625 used to be THE powder for 20ga. Probably why you can't get rid of it. No one shoots 20 anymore. But it works well in 9mm and 38spec. These 3 are the only thing I have used it in. I still have several pounds left.