Ideal 35875

[Bret4207]

It is very real when you exceed the ability of the bullet to hold together.

True, I've seen the vaporizing bullet a time or two. It was the idea of any bullet being limited to a specific number RPM that the whole thing hinged on, rather than people not being able to figure things out the same way others did. Sure ate up some bandwidth.

 

[Bret4207]

A guy I worked with got to thinking about all the deer hunting talk around the shop and decided to buy an all around deer rifle and take up the sport. After carefully perusing catalogs and ballistic charts he decided, all on his own (too proud to ask any of the other hunters their opinion), to purchase a long Mauser actioned Whitworth in 375 H&H Magnum.
Stunned when he showed up in camp with the new rifle, I asked why a 375 H&H? His reply was simple. "It was plenty big enough for deer and if needed for '56 Pontiacs as well." If I remember correctly he didn't have any trouble dropping Michigan whitetails with that rig.

I was just reading Paul Mathews "40 Years with the 45-70". He also had a 375 H+H. I have that book around here too, but he used that cartridge as a hot loaded 38-55. I can see that, or better a 375 Winchester, with cast. That's an awful lot of case for the velocity though.

 

[fiver]

takes it like a champ though.
i worked with a [now dead] friend on getting his H&H to shoot the 200gr hornady's meant for the 375.
we went a bit over the winchesters velocity window, but they worked very well out to about 200yds. or so.

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

I have far far more problems UNDER stabulizing a bullet vs Over ROTATING one.

My biggest complaint with fast twist is I dont find them forgiving with cast. I suppose I never had one flat INACCURATE, I defineatly have been able to get better cast accuracy with slower twists.

CW

 

[fiver]

i've never had any slow twist rifles to work with.
they've all been what they were since forever, or fast for the caliber.

 

[RBHarter]

For a time I had 8.5,10&12 " twist 30 cals . I think the 325 30-30 is a 12 and the M70 and 760 06's are 10s .

The 27 cal is in 10&11" .

7 mm in 8.5&9.5 . I'm pretty sure the 6.5s are 8.5" .

The 25-06 &257 are 10" .

The 340 222 is only 12 but the 223s are 8" . Same 62 gr bullet powder and primer and 2K is all I can squeeze out of the 223 , but the 222 would probably take a little more at 2600 .

The 35s , pistol and rifle are 1-16" except the 358 which is 1-14" .

45s come in 32,20,&16" twists. That ML I think is a 1-66" , o don't know about the C&B pistols I only have the Dragoon that would see something other than a RB .

The 50 cal ML are slow to only 1 of the lot will shoot a Minie' the rest are stuck with PRB .

 

[Bret4207]

I have far far more problems UNDER stabulizing a bullet vs Over ROTATING one.

My biggest complaint with fast twist is I dont find them forgiving with cast. I suppose I never had one flat INACCURATE, I defineatly have been able to get better cast accuracy with slower twists.

CW

On The Site That Shall Not Be Named a few (10-15?) years back there was a good number of posts mentioning the advantages of the 32 Special vs 30WCF with cast. The 32's slower twist seemed more cast friendly. And the issues with the faster twist have been discussed forever.

But it could be worse! Talk to anyone that's worked with cast in a gain twist mil-surp rifle!!! Those guys had their hands full!!!

 

[fiver]

talk to the guys that bought a chopped off barrel version and only got the slow twist portion.
see what they say about the accuracy.

 

[Bazoo]

Wow that's cool man. I think it's wonderful to see an old mould like that still in service, still wanted. It warms my heart. Thank you for sharing.

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

Seated into the Winchester 9x45.