Loading 30-30 , the quick and easy way.............

Ben

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By the way, this system can load some very accurate 30-30 ammo , VERY QUICKLY. The new Lee Powder Measure is being used in the video above, I really do like it.

http://leeprecision.com/auto-drum-powder-measure.html

Excuse the sloppy typing below. The bullet is a SAECO # 301, the primers were Wolf Large Pistol.

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Hello, Ben.

I'll not be telling my JR3 and Rock Chucker II that I watched your video and drooled, because upsetting them is the last thing I want to do.

For years, they've been working in tandem -- one performing one task and the other doing the next -- that watching them in action is akin to watching your Lee turret in action. I've been contemplating buying that press since it was introduced, but replacing those two hard working RCBS presses would be the cause of much reloading bench mourning and weeping.

Still, and all, it seems a beauty of a press. Thanks for showing it in action.

Michael
 

Ben

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The Lee Classic Turret Press is a wonderful invention.
I wouldn't be without one. By the way, a cluttered loading bench is a happy loading bench. My loading bench is never neat, as you can see in the video.

If I put the auto index rod in place, things speed up even more. However , this is quick enough for me right now.

Many thanks,
Ben
 

JWFilips

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What I saw is nice, Ben. I just guess I'm just stuck in the dark ages. I have no knowledge of these things except what I see in those moving pictures! :D
Thanks for posting
Jim
 

Ben

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Ha,

Jim , you're so far ahead of me in technology, I'm the turtle and you're the hare.

Ben
 
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JWFilips

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Ben,
I'm still using "stone age" tools ( "rock chucker" ) to load my cartridges You are far more progressive!
Jim
 

KHornet

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It doesn't really matter what press or presses you use, as long as you can safely produce safe and accurate ammo. Many many years ago someone did an article on loading 30-30 cases with a ground down nail to deprime over a board with a hole in it, a wooden dowl and a hammer to reprime with the primer set on the board (ala Lee hand tool), and a cast bullet seated over a moderate charge (of I forget the powder), and loaded single shot. I tried it for 5 loads, and it worked. Not fancy, but it worked and they shot.
 
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KHornet

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I still have 310 tools, and a number of dies for same in various cals, along with a lee loader. Used to call it kitchen table reloading. My first press was/is a CH that I use for expanding gas checks and push thru bullets. I have used Lyman turrets (2 of them) now for a number of years, and like them. Along the way I have had RCBS, Lee, and Latchmiller single state presses thanks to ebay and good prices 10 plus back. Every couple of years or so, I load a box or two of something with my 310 tool. Usually 222 or 38S. Keeps me humble and makes me appreciate that in my older years I can appreciate how good it is today, and the fact that it wasn't bad back then. Oh, almost forgot, I broke down and bought a lee turret 4 holer last year, and Ben, I really do like it for hand gun ctgs.
 

Ben

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If you're playing with different bullet styles and different powder charges looking and searching for an accurate load , this IS NOT the system for you.

However, if you've locked in on a " pet load " and want 100 rounds of that load, this system will crank out the ammo in a hurry.

Ben
 

Ben

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It doesn't really matter what press or presses you use, as long as you can safely produce safe and accurate ammo. Many many years ago someone did an article on loading 30-30 cases with a ground down nail to deprime over a board with a hole in it, a wooden dowl and a hammer to reprime with the primer set on the board (ala Lee hand tool), and a cast bullet seated over a moderate charge (of I forget the powder), and loaded single shot. I tried it for 5 loads, and it worked. Not fancy, but it worked and they shot.

In one of my old reloading books ( 35-40 years old now ) there is an article where a fellow made basic tools to do what you're describing with the 30-30. He probably had less than $2 in his loading set up and was producing reliable ammo.
 
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Lost Dog

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Guess I'm KHornet's Kato. I load all my centerfires with a 310 tong tool. Pistols are often loaded on an old Lyman Spar-T press and the primary power measures are either a 1903 Ideal No. 5 or a 50's Lyman No. 55. Oh there's an old Lyman Spartan press on the bench and a RCBS Jr press from 1977 for my heavy stuff on a shelf beneath the bench if needed. Shucks, I even have 310 tool bullet sizing chambers for everything I cast & load too. Though I admit my old Lyman 450 gets the majority of the work.
Yup, I've been told that watching me load is like watching a video from the 60's. Why just 3 days ago I loaded a box of .44Mag with my 310. Took about an hour and a half. Sure is satisfying when ya shoot stuff loaded old school. ;)
 

KHornet

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Dog, I couldn't agree more on the satisfaction level of loading on a 310 tool. I remember the first chuck that I shot with 310 loads from a 340 Sav 222. A super satisfaction level!
 
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Lost Dog

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I remember meeting a guy with the Colorado Fish & Game north of Gunnison. He had a Springfield .50-70. He'd load his cartridges with an oak block he built with a series of holes and nails sticking out of it. He'd wax up the case and press it into a hole with a welded up arbor he built. The whole series was done on this block system and his hand made arbor. He could do one round from start to finish in about 3 or 4 minutes. Never seen anything like it before or since. Of course he didn't shoot his old trapdoor .50-70 much but I got to a couple of times that summer when staying with another F&G employee and his family. That was around 1963 and that old boy thought my 310 rig for my trapdoor .45-70 was the slickest thing he ever saw.:rolleyes:
 

Ian

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The Classic Turret has been a Godsend to me since I first got one about five years ago. In fact, loading .30-30 a little faster is WHY I got one. With the Safety Prime system it's easy, and the only pre-prep of the cases is deprime and wet-tumble with SS pins. Size in station one, prime/expand in station 2, drop powder in 3 with rifle charging die, seat/roll crimp in station 4. Another setup that I use for .308 and .35 Remington involves the PTE die and separate seat/crimp operations because I like to seat bullets with the Forster in-line die. Sometimes, when loading for utmost accuracy, I'll swap out the seat/crimp die on the .30-30 turret with a Forster in-line die and roll crimp in a separate operation. I really like that new powder measure, Ben. I almost bought one on your recommendation last time I ordered something from Midway but I'm funneling extra funds in a different direction right now.

BTW, the dimpled Safety Prime tray has to be the best primer flipper ever invented, sure wish Lee would re-tool and make ALL of their primer trays with the dimples instead of concentric ridges.
 

Ben

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I love my Lee Powder measure ( after it underwent " Castration " ).
It comes with a mechanism to prevent double charging. That gadget
did nothing but give trouble for me. I thought it was interesting that Lee provided
you with the instructions for the removal of the device.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
A little bit or work with a Dremel tool and a diamond cut off wheel and that extra baggage was removed and now the powder measure runs smooth as silk.

Ben
 
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Ben

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the dimpled Safety Prime tray has to be the best primer flipper ever invented, sure wish Lee would re-tool and make ALL of their primer trays with the dimples instead of concentric ridges.


Isn't it great to have all those little buggers all facing up ! !