Looking for Mr. Single Shot's Gunsmithing by Frank DeHaas

Snakeoil

Snakeoil

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If anyone has this book would you please look to see if there is a drawing for the .22 rimfire extractor used in original 1885 Winchesters? I'm looking for factory machining dimensions.
Thanks.
 
Rick H

Rick H

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I have the article by DeHass from the "NRA Gunsmithing Guide" copyright 1966" "Gunsmithing the Winchester Single-shot. Part 1 and Part 2.
It is NOT rimfire specific.
Bare with me while I try to make a copy I can post and send to you.
 
Ian

Ian

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Pretty sure @RicinYakima has a copy of DeHaas' book. I ran through my library and have plenty of exploded views and history of the 1885 but no dimensions for parts.
 
Snakeoil

Snakeoil

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Thanks to all who responded, especially Rick and Jim for providing either excepts from the book or a link to the digital version of the book. I went to Charlie's today and he has every damn book DeHaas ever published. I went thru the three on single shots and gunsmithing and unfortunately, none have any original drawings with dimension. Then on the way to lunch from Charlie's I got a call from Gary Quinlan. I thought he might have some Winchester drawings. He does, but all he has are for their telescopic sights. We talked for quite a while about these extractors and I asked him about John Campbell and if he had a way to connect with him. He said he has not really spoken to him since he helped with the 2 books John wrote. John actually came to see Gary and see is drawings and 1885 collection. Gary did say that Cody has all the Winchester archives. So, I suspect that the museum rep I spoke with was simply not aware of what is availble in their archives. He may only know what has been digitized. I think I may try again and this time by phone instead of email. If we didn't just get a new pup, I'd be thinking of taking a flight out to Cody to dig thru the archives myself. I still might do that.

I have two more extractors headed my way in a couple weeks when by buddy Bill gets back from FL. I'll measure up those two and do the same comparison to mine using the pivot pin to establish equal alignment.

Thanks again to those who responded.
 
KeithB

KeithB

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I talked to a guy at a technology company that does 3D scanning as well as 3D printing. They can scan an original part and generate an electronic datafile that can be used for 3D modeling or as a base to generate CNC machine code. They need a picture of the part, it would help if it were on a grid or had a scale nearby. That will allow them to quote a price. Eventually they will need a real part.

3D metal printing can generate some pretty strong parts.

Interested?
 
Ian

Ian

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I had a broken, obsolete boost pump rocker switch cover for a Mooney M20K re-created by a dental lab with the 3D scan technique. They printed several for me with various plastics in two colors (black with white letters on the face of the switch, and white with black letters on the switch). Total cost to me was $115, happy customer with matching switch replacement on his Rocket 305's panel...priceless.
 
Snakeoil

Snakeoil

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KeithB said:
I talked to a guy at a technology company that does 3D scanning as well as 3D printing. They can scan an original part and generate an electronic datafile that can be used for 3D modeling or as a base to generate CNC machine code. They need a picture of the part, it would help if it were on a grid or had a scale nearby. That will allow them to quote a price. Eventually they will need a real part.

3D metal printing can generate some pretty strong parts.

Interested?
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Yes. But again will mention that cost is going to be the deciding factor. I can provide photos with a scale included. But as I mentioned in my emails, these are all fit to the rifle they go into. One feature is the High Wall is slightly longer than the Low Wall version and they carried two different part numbers at Winchester, 14 for the HW and 4 for the LW. From what I have observed with examples so far, is they are really the same extractor, just the contour that matches the bottom of the receiver (frame) is different, with the HW being about 1/16" longer. With a 4 and a 14 on the same pivot pin, all the other features line up perfectly. So, a blank would need to be long enough to be fit into a HW frame and would then have to be trimmed in that area for a LW application.

If you just want to pass the contact info along to me, I can speak directly with them. I don't want to burn up your time.

Thanks
 
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