LPM vs LP in .41 Remington Magnum

Elric

Well-Known Member
In light of folks looking at loading with the primers they got on-hand, I thought this was interesting. Note that this worked for Red Dot and W-296. I do NOT in any way suggest that these results can be applied to any powder. Note also that John was using a cast bullet, which is easier to get going than a jacketed bullet.

All errata are mine. If you want to be totally sure, buy the back issue...

Handloader Magazine #277, April-May 2012, pages 59-60
"The Old is New" Handloads for a .41 Remington Magnum
by John Haviland [PBUH!]

"Thumbing through my chronograph records, I found the results of a comparison between standard and magnum large pistol primers in the .41 firing Red Dot and W-296 with the RCBS bullet [Ed. RCBS 41-210-SWC]. The results of shooting CCI 300 standard and CCI 350 magnum large pistol primers are listed in Table 1, and it shows no need for a magnum primer with a light amount of powder, but the additional 125 fps with a heavy charge of W-296 was well worth the added cost of a magnum primer"

Table 1 - Primer Comparison

Primer
Powder​
GrainsAvg fps
CCI 300
Red Dot​
7.01,066
CCI 350
|​
7.01,069
CCI 300
W-296​
21.01,257
CCI 350
|​
21.01,382
 
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Rick

Moderator
Staff member
Using N-110 and a standard primer gave me the single best long range revolver groups I've ever had. No need for the mag primer there.
 

Rick

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Staff member
Your chart needs to compare 296 with standard and mag primers. Odds are the mag with 296 would be a benefit but without the comparison it's only a guess.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Usually published loads of W296/H110 recommend/specify a Mag primer for a more thorough Burn. Your Chrono results sure make that argument.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Your chart needs to compare 296 with standard and mag primers. Odds are the mag with 296 would be a benefit but without the comparison it's only a guess.
I bet there is a typo in that chart ;)
 

fiver

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the ES of the red-dot would be interesting, speed is only half of what's happening.
the magnum CCI data surely would suggest that load just got a lot more efficient.