Lyman 429244

CWLONGSHOT

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I thought I had made this thread...

I borrowed this mold from a friend. He has three if these all 4cav molds.

When I got it home and cleaned up & cast. I found the gas check shank to me .388 after powder coat.

I spoke with my friend, he said come back and swap molds!

So next AM I did just that. We enjoyed a coffee a d chat. I hot new mold and headed home and I cast again. Just a few to check. SAME DEAL!! The fits mold has a W1 stamped in the corner. Second mold says W5. Third mold is also a W1. Ill stop again tomorrow and grad that third mold to try.

Here is a video.


I know that Saves offerd a small shank check. But dont see it on the website. I need to call
Or email.

Thanks

CW
 

CWLONGSHOT

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Well a lil research from Walks!

Seems Lyman released a number of molds utilizing a "special" gas check!!

Now to try and get some if these. Being Lyman is 12 miles as the crow flies... Maybe I just go and ask them!

CW
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Lyman made gas checks were slip on, they didn't crimp to the base at all.They were often "ejected" from the bullet base in flight. I think Lymans been buying and packaging Hornady crimp-on checks for perhaps 10 years now.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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Lyman made gas checks were slip on, they didn't crimp to the base at all.They were often "ejected" from the bullet base in flight. I think Lymans been buying and packaging Hornady crimp-on checks for perhaps 10 years now.
Yup I remember. Part n parcel to the whole seating bullets INSIDE NECKS! As well as long neck affection! :oops:;)

Walks gave me the heads up. I dont have notes but apparently he was upper management till about 2011 when he retired.
Bullets was 358477? 452190, 429244 & 429215. But not all "215" cause the one I have has .400 shank.

Cw
 

fiver

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those slip on checks were some smaller.
i have a few boxes of them kicking around here and they have to go on uber straight if you use them with the newer mold types.
 

CZ93X62

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Hornady checks onto older Lyman castings' shanks is just another chapter in the Lyman Mould Poetry Saga. My most recalcitrant offenders are the #358156 and #452490, both SWC/GC designs. NOE's gas check lip-flaring tools are a godsend, and allow straight seating of Hornady checks on these shanks meant for old-style Lyman shanks.

My #311291 dates from c. 1983, and has the fatter shank meant for the Lyman checks. I still have several hundred of the old-style Lyman checks, but stopped using them many years ago. After seeing that Hornady checks produce better grouping in both 30/30 WCF and 30-06, Hornady checks got the call from that day forward (mid 1980s). I'm all about Hornady and Sage's these days. Those check-flaring tools are AGAIN a godsend.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Some will come off in the shake part of "shake n bake".
Nope. I shake the bullets to coat them, then install the gaschecks while holding the bullet with tweezers. Lyman slip ons fit much better with the bullet base coated too. This is why I don't mind Lyman checks as much as I used to, there is no PC on the outside of the check at all.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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WOOHOO!!!

So Monday I grabbed the last (of three) 429244 4 cav molds from my friend. Its stanped tge same as the first mold so didnt have high hopes and then I found a 2. Av with a AV suffix and almost left the 4 cav in the box!!

Got home and cleaned all molds. Started casting. But quickly realized the 2 cav mold had miss matched halfs. Grrr. Half 429244 half 429215!!! Pretty sure one of the two "215's" will actually be a 244. But I could see that the gc shanks was identical. So looks like its gonna be .400. (Cause other 215 was )
I put handles in the last 4 cav and cast two fills i to the quench and just measured... .398/.401!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOO!!! So whats the deal with the molds markings?????

First mold that had .385 ish shanks has IDENTICAL marks as this mold!

But no matter, I have a good mold for this bullet!!! :p:D:p:D
 

fiver

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which sucks, i'm a fanboi of their 4 cavity molds.

i like the style so much, me and Ken Mulholland [Molly] tried to collaborate with a machinist to make 4 cavity RCBS rifle bullet designs in Lyman style blocks.
Ken had the mold material all lined up and i was literally sitting here writing a check for the first 10 cherries when he called me and said the machinist backed out.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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Finally a casting day. Its supposed ta be 75°. Its almost 60 & beautiful. Pot is warming and garage is open.

Concentrating in this bullet but also some 80g .314 wad cutters too.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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I cast up a lil over 100 and powder coated them. The gator GC seated nicely and are solidly crimped on.

CW
 
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CWLONGSHOT

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If it wasn't a borrowed mould, undersized gas check shanks are very simple to ream.
I spoke with him and he said I could. (As it would be "next guys" problem also. So might as well fix.) But I wanted to check all molds first. I was rewarded!!

CW