New IMR Powders
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Ian
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Might be good for someone just starting out. I already have duplicates of every one of those nine in at least two and in some cases three different brands. Of course they aren't "green" or "CFE" or perfectly uniform in bulk from lot to lot as these claim, but somehow I'll manage along without these new ones for the next 20 years or so.
Ian
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Most of them, probably. I'm having a hard time confirming this but I read somewhere that the "green" part of these new powders has to do with reduced need to wash them in the final processing, so less liquid waste is produced. I'm sure that the reduced cost of the new manufacturing processes will drive out the old powders eventually, but we can figure the manufacturers are going to let us get used to the new ones first.
358156 hp
At large, whereabouts unknown.
I'm under the impression that Alliant is having to use a subcontractor to make the original flake powders for them since they lost the government contract to Radford Arsenal. IIRC, BAE won the contract, and Alliant is having them manufacture the powders for resale, and that situation isn't sitting well with Alliants management.
uncle jimbo
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I read this also and the article said that these were just knock offs of Alliants red, green, blue, and unique powders. I have never tried them, like the original and I have data for them.
Ian
Notorious member
At least we have options. To hear us talk some might think we'd find anything to gripe about. My point of view is cynicism about the whole charade of "green" still directing major production plants, and we the consumer are stuck with the end result, which is NEVER less expensive for US.
RBHarter
West Central AR
I just got a twitch ......that little voice said get 4 more cans of the standards while you can .........
I'd be in a fix if I couldn't have Unique , H322 and 4350 . I really need to find a shotshells replacement for the discontinued 4756.....maybe Blue Dot or Steel ......no it was better . Cleaner less flash faster loads .
I'd be in a fix if I couldn't have Unique , H322 and 4350 . I really need to find a shotshells replacement for the discontinued 4756.....maybe Blue Dot or Steel ......no it was better . Cleaner less flash faster loads .
fiver
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they ain't very good knock-offs.
Hodgdon originally said to use the same bushings to get the same amount of powder and same results on the chronograph.
they pulled that info as soon as the powders hit the shelf.
now they say to use the same data. [umm okay]
if the new powders were cheaper I'd consider trying the red or the green but they ain't and I'm not so impressed with titewad.
it burns dirty and it stinks, literally stomach turning stinks. [not acrid like 700-X in shotshell applications]
or maybe the few places I have tried it are just not its happy place.[shrug]
I knew about the change in Alliant powder production.
they announced it back during the crunch, but nobody paid much heed to that happening.
the new operators are doing a good job of keeping the powder quality and bulkiness the same as old lots have been.
and there have been no complaints or questions like there has been about the new clays powders.
Hodgdon originally said to use the same bushings to get the same amount of powder and same results on the chronograph.
they pulled that info as soon as the powders hit the shelf.
now they say to use the same data. [umm okay]
if the new powders were cheaper I'd consider trying the red or the green but they ain't and I'm not so impressed with titewad.
it burns dirty and it stinks, literally stomach turning stinks. [not acrid like 700-X in shotshell applications]
or maybe the few places I have tried it are just not its happy place.[shrug]
I knew about the change in Alliant powder production.
they announced it back during the crunch, but nobody paid much heed to that happening.
the new operators are doing a good job of keeping the powder quality and bulkiness the same as old lots have been.
and there have been no complaints or questions like there has been about the new clays powders.
Ian
Notorious member
Try True Blue where you used to use 4756.
fiver
Well-Known Member
the 4756 worked in the big long cases too.
I switched to steel for many loads but have to weigh every charge.
I still use 800-X at 1400 fps in the 2-3/4" loads with a sam-1 wad full of 1's or 2's
one other powder I worked with a bit was long shot, it gives some good [1500 type] velocity's with the steel shot wads.
I was putting a felt spacer underneath 1-1/8 oz of number-5 lead and cutting 4 more slits in the steel shot wads.
I switched to steel for many loads but have to weigh every charge.
I still use 800-X at 1400 fps in the 2-3/4" loads with a sam-1 wad full of 1's or 2's
one other powder I worked with a bit was long shot, it gives some good [1500 type] velocity's with the steel shot wads.
I was putting a felt spacer underneath 1-1/8 oz of number-5 lead and cutting 4 more slits in the steel shot wads.
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freebullet
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Guess I'm guna buy more tg, var, & 335
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Jeeze I hate change like this. Stick with what works and leave it alone! "NEW!", "IMPROVED!!!" was fine in 1966. These days it just means "MORE EXPENSIVE!", "NOT AS GOOD AS THE OLD STUFF!!!". Of course I'm still using power from the late 70's/early 80's. Guess it's good I don't shoot as much as I used to...
Was having withdrawals....down to three pounds.