JWFilips
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It has the simple wire spring It is a 340 A model
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It has the simple wire spring It is a 340 A model
Kevin Stenberg
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Paul is the trigger shoe a device that makes the trigger wider so there is more finger contact?
Yep.
fiver
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they slide over the trigger and tighten into place with a couple of little hex head screws.
for some reason they make the trigger pull feel lighter.
I like the target to have just enough center circle to allow me to have 4 triangles around the cross.
then I can stare [like really stare] down the scope.
another thing that can help is to have some lines you can hold the cross hairs in line with.
that keeps you from rolling the scope around and lets you kind of work your way into the center of the scope.
it's just a matter of doing a little pre-shot routine.
breathe, pull, cross hairs, hold breath, settle your eyes, squeeze.
I do it when I am shooting trap too, each shot has a routine I follow, then I call for the target.
hunting is a shortened version.
front foot pointed where the target is going, move-mount-shoot.
for some reason they make the trigger pull feel lighter.
I like the target to have just enough center circle to allow me to have 4 triangles around the cross.
then I can stare [like really stare] down the scope.
another thing that can help is to have some lines you can hold the cross hairs in line with.
that keeps you from rolling the scope around and lets you kind of work your way into the center of the scope.
it's just a matter of doing a little pre-shot routine.
breathe, pull, cross hairs, hold breath, settle your eyes, squeeze.
I do it when I am shooting trap too, each shot has a routine I follow, then I call for the target.
hunting is a shortened version.
front foot pointed where the target is going, move-mount-shoot.
Fiver,one of my boys when shooting his Hoyt(don't get me started) recurve can NOT keep his bow arm steady,at the moment of the shot.ILF limbs,47# so it ain't an overbow situation.We all kid him about his mis-spent youth...nuff said.But,he regularly is a front runner in competition.We all just look at him and wonder,how in the heck is he even hitting the blooming target....then,wooosh,another 10.It just ain't right,haha.
So,back to CB's;shooting off a bench is one thing.The process is aided by,hopefully well engineered,rests and a stock that repeats well....doh.
You're at an advantage because of your shotguns....and you already know this but,because of the swing involved,you never have to work on a "steady" support arm.Benchwork is fine for rifles but if folks would practice a bit more on offhand they'd quickly realize,how important a steady support arm/cheekweld is.This is where fit manifests itself.
So,back to CB's;shooting off a bench is one thing.The process is aided by,hopefully well engineered,rests and a stock that repeats well....doh.
You're at an advantage because of your shotguns....and you already know this but,because of the swing involved,you never have to work on a "steady" support arm.Benchwork is fine for rifles but if folks would practice a bit more on offhand they'd quickly realize,how important a steady support arm/cheekweld is.This is where fit manifests itself.
"Zen" is tossed around in motorcycle world,along with trad archery....and it is a bonafied excersize.
There's trajectory and RP's(reference points) when pavement surfing.It puts real numbers on "track" position.So whilst subconscious Zen is all good....hitting your marks with a high degree of acc will usually see higher potential scores.
There's trajectory and RP's(reference points) when pavement surfing.It puts real numbers on "track" position.So whilst subconscious Zen is all good....hitting your marks with a high degree of acc will usually see higher potential scores.
fiver
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possibly.
it's amazing how much difference 1/8 or 1/4" makes.
instead of trying to position your head you just rest it in place.
my old 3200 wears a wrap around suede pad and it has a smooth spot where my cheek goes.
I didn't touch that gun for almost 20 years and as soon as I picked it up and placed my head in that spot it was like ahh...okay.
it's amazing how much difference 1/8 or 1/4" makes.
instead of trying to position your head you just rest it in place.
my old 3200 wears a wrap around suede pad and it has a smooth spot where my cheek goes.
I didn't touch that gun for almost 20 years and as soon as I picked it up and placed my head in that spot it was like ahh...okay.
quicksylver
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Jim ..you are definitely in the big league now...you're also struggling with the same issues I have with scopes...they make the trigger pull feel about 10#s heavier and..I pay way too much attention to the cross hairs wobbling around instead of making sure my cheek and the butt of the rifle are in the right place....I know you'll get the hang of it ..me I'm not so sure..
BTW...you have put a smile on my face that might last for the next year... Thanks for that and again great going Jim !!!
BTW...you have put a smile on my face that might last for the next year... Thanks for that and again great going Jim !!!
fiver
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the bench and field fitment is a discussion I had with the SIL last night.
[he keeps on wanting to put a handle on everything]
he mentioned that the rifle I put together for him just glides into place when he shoots from a knee or standing up.
but he has to fight with it some from the bench.
I was like yeah, you have an 18" rifle set up for field use, not a 15 lb bench gun.
for another your about 7"s too short to shoot from my bench with my rests.
I could configure it fit you to shoot from the bench, but your not gonna like it.
[he keeps on wanting to put a handle on everything]
he mentioned that the rifle I put together for him just glides into place when he shoots from a knee or standing up.
but he has to fight with it some from the bench.
I was like yeah, you have an 18" rifle set up for field use, not a 15 lb bench gun.
for another your about 7"s too short to shoot from my bench with my rests.
I could configure it fit you to shoot from the bench, but your not gonna like it.
JWFilips
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I don't hunt big game any more so I'm not opposed to configuring
any of my center fire rifles to bench use because that is the only way they are going to be shot.
Yesterday I reconfigured my targets to have cross lines for the crosshairs and I'm going to do some serious checking on my eye placement on the bench ( that Bear system came with plenty of inserts to mix and match under the sock)
I also want to work on adjusting my elevation of my front rest for each level of my target sheet instead of just compensating on the fly for each level on the 11 inch sheet of paper! You guys give good info! It just has to be put into practice
Thanks
Jim
any of my center fire rifles to bench use because that is the only way they are going to be shot.
Yesterday I reconfigured my targets to have cross lines for the crosshairs and I'm going to do some serious checking on my eye placement on the bench ( that Bear system came with plenty of inserts to mix and match under the sock)
I also want to work on adjusting my elevation of my front rest for each level of my target sheet instead of just compensating on the fly for each level on the 11 inch sheet of paper! You guys give good info! It just has to be put into practice
Thanks
Jim
Crazy days....sittin in the woods,bow hunting,surfin the web...doh.
If,you have an extra rifle,one thing that you can do for serious practice;Set up the scope distance,from a proper cheekweld/hold,so that there's that black "edge" to the sight picture on the ocular lense.Now practice dry firing.You should be able to maintain that black perimeter through the whole process.You'll see it if you move your head the tiniest bit.Keep at it.
The scope will be mounted FWD by about 1/2" or so.
If,you have an extra rifle,one thing that you can do for serious practice;Set up the scope distance,from a proper cheekweld/hold,so that there's that black "edge" to the sight picture on the ocular lense.Now practice dry firing.You should be able to maintain that black perimeter through the whole process.You'll see it if you move your head the tiniest bit.Keep at it.
The scope will be mounted FWD by about 1/2" or so.
quicksylver
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Jim ...what I do is get the butt against my shoulder not my arm..i then look through the scope to see where I am for windage...then move the front rest to where the cross hairs are centered. All the time keeping the butt against my shoulder...then I adjust the front rest for elevation...if done correctly I should be able to come up off the gun then back on it again and the cross hairs should be centered...and don't forget to reposition the foreend back on the rest where it was on the previous shot...my rest has a stop out in front that makes it easier to do so
