Riding the struggle bus

Petrol & Powder

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I purchased a brass, MP 358-165-RF, 4 cavity HP mold and started casting with it.

The mold comes with a fantastic assortment of Hollow Point Pins, including penta-point, cup point, small cone, large cone, and a flat point plug. It’s a well-made mold and comes with Allen keys for the all the fasteners.

I started casting with the Penta point pins because they looked cool! I was immediately disappointed with the accuracy those bullets provided. Replaced the Penta points with the more traditional round, cone type pins and picked the smaller of the pins to achieve the heavier bullet weight.

This was much better in terms of accuracy, but I was getting a lot of variation in bullet weight. The bullets looked good, but I think there were minor variations in the profiles of the pins that resulted in different final weights between the 4 cavities of the mold. The bullets cast with the small pins in place were running 159 to 162 grains. That’s a lot of spread for a 4-cavity mold. Despite the variance, the accuracy was greatly improved.

I decided to try the pins with the larger cone profile and knew I would lose a little bullet weight. My assumption was correct, and the bullet weight dropped to 156 grains but the consistency between cavities was much better and well within a few tenths of a grain over dozens of bullets. I suspect there is one cavity or one pin (or some combination of both) that is slightly different from the others. The difference is so insignificant that I’m not sure if it would be worth the effort to identify the offending cavity/pin.

I have not had the chance to put the large HP bullets on paper, but they are hitting P.O.A. on steel and I suspect they will be at least the equal to the prior lots cast with the smaller pins.

So, I think I’m finally getting off the struggle bus.
 

Ben

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Staff member
I seldom buy any mould that I'd consider trouble free , new or used.
Stay with it, knowing you, ----------you'll conquer it.

Ben
 
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Jeff H

NW Ohio
I've given "problem moulds" away to my best friend with the caveat that "it doesn't cast for beans," yet it casts just fine for him.

I borrow moulds from him which he says is "an aching pain in the butt to cast with," yet they cast just fine for me.

So, I had an idea that the next time I am utterly frustrated with a mould, I'll give it to him and then borrow it back.:p
 
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Dusty Bannister

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While I do not use this type of mold with the movable pins, I understand that the pins may need to be polished so they move freely in the groove or will not settle fully into position. That might be the source of your weight variation. This would not be unexpected with a new mold and new pins. Are you doing anything to "settle" the pins into position before you refill the mold cavities?

Not from my personal experience, just comments from others.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
a little buffin around the edges doesn't hurt either.

your weight difference might simply be an extra turn of the cherry in one or two holes, or a couple of the pins might be running a bit colder leaving a slight void.