Rifle cleaning
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Ian
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I usually tear down all my guns once, fix all the things that are wrong with them, and not do it again until something quits working. Brake cleaner, compressed air, and some oil drizzled in the works usually maintains my pistols and revolvers as required, if they need anything more the plastic or wood comes off and they soak in a gallon paint can of Ed's for a few days. I gave up on cylinder carbon rings a long time ago, at a certain point it reaches an equilibrium, and since I don't compete professionally for long-range precision, why fight it.
oscarflytyer
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Fun time. Give a 1911 to a guy who has only ever taken down a poly gun with slide that comes off with just dropping the side lever! I almost tinkled in my pants watching it. Had to ask him what the heck he was doing. He had no clue that a 1911 was totally diff take down!
Ian
Notorious member
If you have the skills and the sense to do any of the other things you could figure it out in pretty short order if necessary. That's kind of the point, like a Boy Scout, each skill learned supports the others, giving one the foundation and approach to tackle new challenges and learn new things. Most "kids these days" don't know how to turn a screw properly any more and are crippled by any task that involves steps beyond that.
Regulates the air and gas flow and proportions to the engine. It also mixes the fuel and air and feeds it to the intake manifold.Uh Huh . . . Please explain what it does.
Good enough?
It isn't the task that cripples them, it is being faced with an eventuality for which they have not been specifically trained.
No ability to see a problem, identify the nature of the problem, formulate an appropriate response to the problem, and act on it.
We don't teach people how to problem solve. We don't teach innovation or inventiveness. We don't teach free thinking.
I see it every day with coworkers. I feel some day like I am the brain for the entire works. My wife wonders why I'm exhausted after a days work. It isn't physically demanding but it mentally exhausting.
I will say it is nice to school the youngsters when we have issues. They dwell on what we can't do, I focus on what we can do.
Ian
Notorious member
EXACTLY. Lots of days I miss being in the trenches where I only had to think for myself. But, there's a reason I get paid more for what I do now.
waco
Springfield, Oregon
My excitement about the Kroil/JB compound combo was how well it worked removing copper fouling.
I have a few rifles that never see cast bullets.
A few of these have been a bear to get clean down to bare metal. This stuff just plain works.
I'll be sure to only use it for deep cleanings one a year or so.
Rifles and handguns that see nothing but lead rarely get touched as far as cleaning goes.
I have a few rifles that never see cast bullets.
A few of these have been a bear to get clean down to bare metal. This stuff just plain works.
I'll be sure to only use it for deep cleanings one a year or so.
Rifles and handguns that see nothing but lead rarely get touched as far as cleaning goes.
Ian
Notorious member
JB is useful but on things like bringing back a never-cleaned family heirloom or war relic back from the dead. If you find you're using it regularly to remove copper fouling, don't wait so long to clean your barrel. Use copper solvent every 20 rounds to keep it from ever building up. Or, if you do go on a PD hunt, pig hunt, or fun shoot where you copper the heck out of something, the proper application of DC voltage is handy for fixing the "hangover" without harming the gun. My $0.02.
Rally Hess
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When I went through ASM school in the Navy, we had to define what a carb did, on our final exam. It meters, atomizes, and controls the amount of Air/fuel mixture that enters the intake manifold. Funny what a guy remembers!
If the copper build up is not too bad use a solvent that contains a moderate amount of ammonia. Butch's Bore Shine and TM Solution are good examples. If the Cu fouling is heavy use Sweet's 7.62 Copper Solvent. Sweet's has a high ammonia content. Be VERY careful with ammonia in a barrel, especially 416R stainless steel. I let it soak for 20 to 30 minutes but NOT longer. Patch it out with dry patches followed by a patch soaked with rubbing alcohol, dry patch and then oil. If the Cu is really bad I'll wrap a patch around an undersize brush, apply JB or Rem-Clean (also abrasive) and apply elbow grease. FWIW, TM in TM solution is Tom Meredith, a well known and highly respected stock maker for bench rest rifles. Tom is/was a BR competitor. BR shooters clean after every group (5 or 10 shots plus sighters). BR shooters fire 2 or 3 fouling shots and then go to the record target for group. I hope this helps.
KHornet
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Tearing down a weapon beyond field stripping for easy cleaning is fine.
Detail disassembly is a fools chore in my opinion. I once stupidly tore
down a Garand Trigger housing group. If I recall correctly it took many
hours to find, and reassemble the thing, and felt I was lucky when it
worked. Detail disassembly is for gunsmiths!
Paul
Detail disassembly is a fools chore in my opinion. I once stupidly tore
down a Garand Trigger housing group. If I recall correctly it took many
hours to find, and reassemble the thing, and felt I was lucky when it
worked. Detail disassembly is for gunsmiths!
Paul
Pistolero
Well-Known Member
"I thought that field stripping a 1911, along with loading an M1 rifle, driving a finishing nail,
sharpening a blade, rebuilding a carburetor, filleting a fish, tying a Bowline knot, and a lot of
other similar things were required knowledge for graduating to manhood."
Yes, exactly. Too many folks these days are just unequipped to deal with things other than
phone for help.
I would imagine that I have saved $200K at minimum in my life working on my own stuff, cars,
aircraft, guns, power equipment, etc. And what Ian says about building on previous experience and
figuring it out, is right on target. After a while, you are comfortable disassembling anything.
I wind up pulling down a small engine carb at least a few times every year. Power washer, generators,
weed whacker, zero turn, lawn tractor, two leaf blowers, and more. With the darned ethanol in gas,
they are always going wrong. Years ago, with real gas, I never fiddled a carb on a small engine more
often than once in 5 years.
Bill
sharpening a blade, rebuilding a carburetor, filleting a fish, tying a Bowline knot, and a lot of
other similar things were required knowledge for graduating to manhood."
Yes, exactly. Too many folks these days are just unequipped to deal with things other than
phone for help.
I would imagine that I have saved $200K at minimum in my life working on my own stuff, cars,
aircraft, guns, power equipment, etc. And what Ian says about building on previous experience and
figuring it out, is right on target. After a while, you are comfortable disassembling anything.
I wind up pulling down a small engine carb at least a few times every year. Power washer, generators,
weed whacker, zero turn, lawn tractor, two leaf blowers, and more. With the darned ethanol in gas,
they are always going wrong. Years ago, with real gas, I never fiddled a carb on a small engine more
often than once in 5 years.
Bill