Rossi 92 44 mag

Brad

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Brought this home from Tulsa.
Imported by Interarms so it is 25 or more years old. Some honest wear on bluing and stock but nothing bad. The bore is shiny and smooth. Action isn’t too bad and trigger is good.

If this shoots like I expect then the 44 mag Marlin is gonna go bye bye.
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CWLONGSHOT

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Its a shame the Marlin 44's just have such problems. I have had three I think and none shot well but I have three Marlin 45's now and every one is a shooter.

I have a Browning 92 in 44 and its OK with cast but needs attention. I shot 3-4 jacketed loads @ 50 yards and they was not one hole but touching. I know it can shoot.

Good luck!

CW
 

Brad

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The Marlins, or at least those marked JM, seem to bring a premium. I saw numerous in the 1500 range at the Tulsa show.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
:headscratch:Why would you expect the Rossi to shoot better than the Marlin? Both prefer fat bullets, based on my experience with a 357 Rossi carbine.
 

Brad

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Because my Marlin doesn’t do better than 3-4” at 50 yards. Gonna be hard to be worse. I have tried .431, .432, and .433 bullets. The .433 required a modification of my seating die as it wanted to pull The bullet from the case as the ram was lowered.

I know some have had good luck with the Marlin 44 mag shooting respectable groups, I have not. Other than my 357 all of my Marlin rifles shoot very well.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
I use .433 diameter sized bullets with two different RCBS die sets, without issue, with several bullet styles and weights. Both carbide, older standard 38/357 set and a 44 Russian/44 Special Cowboy set. The Cowboy is set for neck sizing, for the Marlin.
 

Brad

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My Hornady dies have a sliding sleeve than keeps things aligned. It was too tight for a .433 bullet so I turned a new one that accepts .433 fine.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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I have issues. (Had) with Hornady in 450 when I use 454 bullets too. I like tge design of that sliding sleeve but dislike that lil spring clip that holds it in! Fat bullets tax that lil clip!!!

I have loaded to .434 in my RCBS 44 mag.

Odd how 429/430 jacketed bullet can shoot well from such fat bores.

I was able to polish out interior so .454's can be used now.
 
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300BLK

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I had a Marlin 44 back ~1980 that you could see the roll stamping in the bore. It went back to Marlin and was returned with a new barrel. That one would shoot cloverleafs at 60 yards with 22gr 296 and either Hornady or Speer 240s. The current 44 is circa '05 with the shallow "Ballard rifling". It does OK with .432"+ cast bullets, but I'm mostly shooting 44-40 level loads from it. My 1982 vintage 1894c isn't fussy, and has shot well with stupidly hot, heavy cast loads as well as moderate plainbase 125s.
 

Brad

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Cast a couple hundred 240 RD plain base to feed the new rifle. A charge of Unique should do what I need.
Pop cans better watch out!
 

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CZ93X62

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My luck with 44 Magnum leverguns has not been good until recent years. I had 2 MG Marlin 94s--one in the mid 1980s and another in the late 1990s. I was not a refined cast bullet guy in those days, but I found the wide groove diameters in S&W revolvers and Marlin rifles to be an annoyance--so they didn't last long because they wouldn't shoot for ^&$#.

C. 2010 I found a NIB Miroku/Winchester 1892 in 44 Magnum, and it has been a delight. It digests my .431" castings that my Ruger handbeasts dote on, and shoots then all with good levergun accuracy--1.1"-1.2" or so at 50 yards, and under 3" at 100 yards.

The 44 Magnum is a very capable rifle caliber if its platform can shoot consistently. A 240-250 grain bullet running in the 1800 FPS ballpark is no joke. In a 6# carbine the recoil from such loads is no joke either. It might not be noticed if a 4 x 4 muley was in the sights when the primer functions, but less interesting targets like paper and iron don't off that same distraction. For me--full house 44 Magnum loads in revolvers or rifles are a thing endured......not necessarily enjoyed. The Lights Came On one day in the El Paso Mountains around Ridgecrest. I had some variants of "Skeeter's Load" cooked up with 9.0 grains of Herco in 44 Mag cases capped by a 250 grain FNGC. I held on a jackrabbit about 60 yards away and let drive. Mild recoil + cartwheeled jack. I loaded 5 more of those rounds and tried the recoil without distraction--enjoyable, instead of endurable. Later clocking showed them running 1175-1200 FPS. These Skeeter's=level loads now make up 90% of my 44 Mag shooting.

The Moral Of The Story--the 44 Special and 44/40 WCF taught me the truth of the matter--Diameter does the work, not velocity. All of our predictive terminal ballistics calculations use a squared element to arrive at their conclusions--bullet weight, bullet velocity, or bullet diameter. Only Hatcher IRSP uses an element that squares itself in Nature empirically (diameter) AND utilizes mass instead of dead weight as a constant. My grandparents kept themselves well-fed during the darkest years of the Depression with a 44/40 WCF carbine and its 200 grain flatnose running 1150 FPS. Grandma dropped two black bears that tried their garden plot and a pie cooling on a window shelf. Even in the early 1930s, life in Sawpit Canyon was a challenge--and bears are still to this day the 'Shaggy freebooters' that John Muir described in his writings.
 

Brad

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My goal is the get the 240 RD running in the 1200 fps range. I have no need for more.
 

MW65

Wetside, Oregon
Cast a couple hundred 240 RD plain base to feed the new rifle. A charge of Unique should do what I need.
Pop cans better watch out!
Have had great success with this combo... as well as other 240s & unique...
 

L Ross

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Call me goofy but I have always felt that those "dash" cartridges used in the 1873 and 1992 Winchesters, and Marlin's iterations, and Remington pump guns were and still are well designed "rifle cartridges". Their tapered case design and thin necks were actual design features intentionally.

Until recently I owned a Rossi 92 in .44 wcf and killed three or four deer very handily, I only sold it as part of my down sizing strategy because I have a very nice early Uberti 1873 clone that I intend to shoot deer with using black powder. I also have .38 wcf's in a neat Marlin 1894 and an equally spiffy 1892 Winchester. These fine rifles need to be used to take deer again.

Even though I am down sizing, I could be tempted to buy a Remington 14 1/2 in either .38 or .44 wcf. I still have a Rossi 92 in .357 but I would much rather it be a .38 wcf. It could knock around on the property with less concern than those nice old originals.