Slicking up the Marlin
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One of these days I'll get that Marlin shipped off to a worthwhile smith and have him put on a real barrel. I looked at enough new in the box Marlins to know I'll not be buying another one. For right now this house is taking up much time and all money. I moved in here with a 1 year to do list, ha, I'm starting my 5th year and still checking things off that ever growing list. Next month I get to pay for the main bath getting tiled. I could have found some nice $1 tiles but no, champagne tastes dictate $8 tiles. Oh well, one of these days it'll be the Marlin. After all I did sneak in a radar unit. 
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Hawk
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Now I've gotta chime in. I've got 4 Remington 700s that were all bought in the '80s.
Two .270s, a 7mm Rem Mag and a 25-06. All stock except for trigger adjustment to 2-1/2 lbs.
With tailored loads, both 270s will shot 1/2" to 5/8" 5 shot groups at 100 yards and the other two will shoot 3/4" groups all day long.
Now these may be old school manufacture and not representative of current rifles, but they shoot great.
Two .270s, a 7mm Rem Mag and a 25-06. All stock except for trigger adjustment to 2-1/2 lbs.
With tailored loads, both 270s will shot 1/2" to 5/8" 5 shot groups at 100 yards and the other two will shoot 3/4" groups all day long.
Now these may be old school manufacture and not representative of current rifles, but they shoot great.
fiver
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Remington was at it's apex in the 80's.
they still had the 1100 not the hinky operating 11-87.
their 870's were steel and blued, not 'matte finished' and thinned out.
they even made a real nice over and under shotgun that would shoot hundreds of thousands of rounds without fail.
their ADL and BDL rifles were worth the money you paid for them and they shot quite accurately. [ I still have a ADL 220 swift in a BDL stock from the factory from that time frame] and it'll shoot as well as my savage F-12 in 220.
they still had the 1100 not the hinky operating 11-87.
their 870's were steel and blued, not 'matte finished' and thinned out.
they even made a real nice over and under shotgun that would shoot hundreds of thousands of rounds without fail.
their ADL and BDL rifles were worth the money you paid for them and they shot quite accurately. [ I still have a ADL 220 swift in a BDL stock from the factory from that time frame] and it'll shoot as well as my savage F-12 in 220.
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freebullet
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Next month I get to pay for the main bath getting tiled. I could have found some nice $1 tiles but no, champagne tastes dictate $8 tiles. Oh well, one of these days it'll be the Marlin. After all I did sneak in a radar unit.
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Lol, I picked out $12.50 tiles, found a way to get them for 4$. Then installed them myself. Your way sounds like less work. Luckily I didn't need many.
Sadly my chrony is at risk of being shot each time yet and I only own half of it..
oldblinddog
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I have four new Remington 700's purchased in the last year that all shoot less than 1/2 moa right out of the box with factory ammo. They are matte finished because that is what customers want. The blued BDL is still available if that is what one wants and they are just as good as they ever were. My three year old 870 is not "thinned out". It has just as much metal as the one I carried in the Marine Corps many years ago. I have owned Remington's from every decade since the 60's and I have observed no loss of quality or accuracy. Statements like the one you make above, and which I know to be inaccurate, are distressing at the least.
I don't know that inaccurate would be an accurate claim. Fiver posted his experience with Remington's and his personal view of them today, he didn't say every Remington everywhere, just his experience with them and what he has seen and perceived. You stated your experience with Remington but then went on to at least imply that all Remington's are per your experience, tastes, likes and dislikes.
All members here are free to post their own experiences on any shooting, casting & related subject but to avoid this or any other thread from turning into a p*ssing contest let's limit the conversation to the posters experiences and not call out other members because they expressed a different view than yours.
oldblinddog
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I did not call him out. I merely stated my own experience which includes the fact that his statement is distressing to me because it is my opinion that his statement is inaccurate. It is also my opinion that most people will experience Remington products in a similar fashion to my own. He only stated that he owned one rifle from Remington. I don't know if he owns any others that he did not list that he is having problems with. If he has, I might suggest some ways to determine why he is having a problem. If he (or others) just don't care for the SPS matte finish style rifle, there are other options which remain available to them. But the SPS rifle has no quality issues. It is a product made to meet a demand. Same with the 870.
I am a fan of the Remington 700. I have owned more than 25 of them. Right now I own 6, all of those made since 1998. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
I hold no ill will toward anyone on this or any other forum. My purpose was merely to present another view for those that may be trying to learn from others experiences. And, I don't see how "a p*ssing contest" could come from that.
I am a fan of the Remington 700. I have owned more than 25 of them. Right now I own 6, all of those made since 1998. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
I hold no ill will toward anyone on this or any other forum. My purpose was merely to present another view for those that may be trying to learn from others experiences. And, I don't see how "a p*ssing contest" could come from that.
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Ian
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Look at post #43 for a better idea of the sort of contributions Rick is looking for. Oh, and ignore my tongue-in-cheek sarcastic remark about Remington barrels, that is based on the experience of some of my local friends who have had some issues with both 300 BLK and several 223 barrels and my bitterness at what Remington did to "my" beloved Marlin line of lever-action rifles. The .223 in a couple of 700s somehow has the chamber off center from the bore, badly. I did a pound cast on one and the edge of the chamber neck was near flush with one side of the throat, and it would do 2" at 100 yards with Federal GMM. Just a few examples, but I only hear about the bad ones and actually have no experience with any good Remington barrels made since, well, about 30 years ago.
oldblinddog
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That is distressing to learn and I am sorry to hear of your misfortune in that regard. I have not, as previously stated, had that experience and none of my friends have (or have not mentioned it).
I have not owned a Marlin in awhile, but one I examined last year appeared to be of better quality than at least two of the four 1895's I've owned. But, I didn't buy it or shoot it so I can't elaborate on that subject further.
I hope that you have more positive experience in the future.
fiver
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I was just relaying a small example of my feelings about Remington products.
like I said I did have some positive experiences with them and do own some of their guns.
like a 1917 Remington P-17, and a Remington modified 8mm Lebel, Rem 3200, and a classic 700 in 8 mauser.
the newest is the 700 classic which is wellll,,, a solid 1-1/2" rifle.
the chamber is cut on a slight angle to the barrel but it will stack either jacketed or cast into that 1-1/2"s pretty much all day long every day.
my bad examples are best summed up as they have received to date:
one shotgun and one rifle back in medium flat rate boxes.
like I said I did have some positive experiences with them and do own some of their guns.
like a 1917 Remington P-17, and a Remington modified 8mm Lebel, Rem 3200, and a classic 700 in 8 mauser.
the newest is the 700 classic which is wellll,,, a solid 1-1/2" rifle.
the chamber is cut on a slight angle to the barrel but it will stack either jacketed or cast into that 1-1/2"s pretty much all day long every day.
my bad examples are best summed up as they have received to date:
one shotgun and one rifle back in medium flat rate boxes.
oldblinddog
New Member
I like the Classics. I had several of them. My favorite was a 7 Mag that I killed about a hundred deer with. I hated to see that go. It's demise was hastened by an ex-wife....
oldblinddog
New Member
One thing I noticed about that Marlin (it was a guide gun) that I examined last year was that the sights were lined up properly with the action. Many of the older 336 and 1895's were not so endowed. One that I owned was from the first year or two production of 1895's and had a tapered barrel and did not have micro-groove rifling. It shot the Lyman 457122 over a charge of SR4759 very well. Another one I'd like to have back along with it's mold.
Getting back on track.....
I loaded up 100 rounds for the rifle today. All are with the Lee 434640 sized .433, lbe with BR, and in Starline cases. I did 20 ea with Fed 150, Fed 155, CCI 300, CCI 350, and Tula LP.
If the wind isn't too bad I will shoot tomorrow. I hope the chrony works so I can compare the primers both for velocity, consistency of velocity, and grouping.
I loaded up 100 rounds for the rifle today. All are with the Lee 434640 sized .433, lbe with BR, and in Starline cases. I did 20 ea with Fed 150, Fed 155, CCI 300, CCI 350, and Tula LP.
If the wind isn't too bad I will shoot tomorrow. I hope the chrony works so I can compare the primers both for velocity, consistency of velocity, and grouping.
Starting a new thread for the shooting results.
http://www.artfulbullet.com/index.php?threads/reworked-marlin-1894.1092/
http://www.artfulbullet.com/index.php?threads/reworked-marlin-1894.1092/
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