Strong coffee is a myth

Ian

Notorious member
Imagine me asking for sauerkraut on a hot dog at a carnival in Texas. Same blank look. Might as well have asked for sweet iced tea in Boston. No, I'm not from Niw Yawk City but some of their grub is really good I don't care where you're "from". Another thing I really dig is a GOOD Reuben sandwich with a hot pretzel. Oh, and Pace picante sauce is CRAP.
 

Rick

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Staff member
:eek: I can't even imagine destroying a wonderful, corned beef sandwich by putting something as disgusting as sauerkraut on it. :eek: Stephen Kings imagination couldn't even come up with that. Corned beef requires only a light dose of yellow mustard and rye bread for some mighty fine eatin.
 

L Ross

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Imagine me asking for sauerkraut on a hot dog at a carnival in Texas. Same blank look. Might as well have asked for sweet iced tea in Boston. No, I'm not from Niw Yawk City but some of their grub is really good I don't care where you're "from". Another thing I really dig is a GOOD Reuben sandwich with a hot pretzel. Oh, and Pace picante sauce is CRAP.
I thought there was a large German presence in Texas.
 

L Ross

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Ya know, we still don't have a dedicated cookin' and recipe thread yet. Just think, in a few years it would rival the Waht ya doin' today? thread.

I've stopped buyin' salsa and such. I char up a bunch of this and that with roma tomatoes for reds, and tomatillos for greens. Onions, garlic, lime juice, cilantro, vinegar, cumin. Then mess around with peppers to taste.

I toasted a ground up several different dried chiles and keep the powders separate in small glass jars. I made up chipotles both dried and stored in adobo.

We get intriguing input from many fine cooks here, but I think a dedicated thread would be a fine thing.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
:eek: I can't even imagine destroying a wonderful, corned beef sandwich by putting something as disgusting as sauerkraut on it. :eek: Stephen Kings imagination couldn't even come up with that. Corned beef requires only a light dose of yellow mustard and rye bread for some mighty fine eatin.
Only have one word for that.................boring.

Wake it up by adding Swiss cheese, kraut and either Thousand Island or Russian dressing on grilled Russian rye or dark pumpernickel. Dressing choice is dependent on mood. Kosher pickle and pretzels on the side.
 

smokeywolf

Well-Known Member
Cannot stomach sauerkraut! Except on a Reuben sandwich. Corned beef sandwich isn't quite complete without some pastrami on it as well. Gotta be on good Jewish rye. We all like swiss cheese pretty well here. Doggone it. Now I miss some of the good Jewish Delis that could be found in the L.A. metro area.

I think I bought Pace Picante sauce once and threw all but a couple of spoonfuls away.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
I get it at Sam's Club. Surely you have Sam's in Arkansas! That is where Sam's was invented. :)
:rofl:You would think but that's not the case. Nearest Sam's is in Springfield Missouri............2 1/2 hours away. Were lucky to have Walmart. Had a Costco membership when we lived in Michigan. Much preferred over Sam's.
 

Mainiac

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The only time I've ever been in or drank Starbucks coffee was done in NYC right after 9/11. It was the only coffee place available nearby. I ordered a large, black coffee. The guy just stared at me for second and asked what else I wanted in it. I told him nothing and he just looked at me, shook his head and gave me a large cup of mediocre black coffee. The guy I was with got a double mocha latte something or other and he was real happy with it. I think I paid near $5.00 for that cup o'joe. Crazy.

Dunkin' used to be better coffee I think, darn sure the donuts were 100 times better when they were made fresh at each shop. Tim Hortons makes pretty good joe and the donuts are good. There's an Amish lady up here that makes good old fashioned "sinkers" for some of the auctions. Those donuts are a MEAL!!! The coffee is usually horrible or worse, but the sinkers make up for that.
Tim hortons all went tits up,around here.dont know what happened,they was building them faster then dollar trees,,and just like that....there all closed,,,crazy canadians.
 

Mainiac

Well-Known Member
:eek: I can't even imagine destroying a wonderful, corned beef sandwich by putting something as disgusting as sauerkraut on it. :eek: Stephen Kings imagination couldn't even come up with that. Corned beef requires only a light dose of yellow mustard and rye bread for some mighty fine eatin.
Steven king lives about 40 miles from here,,
Hes a liberal scumbag,sorry to say.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I like good kraut, but good kraut doesn't come out of a can or plastic bag, at least not any I've found. I like corned beef okay, but I've not had much of it so I don't know whats good or not. I think good bread, whatever variety, can make or break a really good sandwich or sub.

Is anyone else familiar with "patty melts"? First ran into them down in Yuma in a flight line greasy spoon and then later up here in the middle of the Adirondack Mts. Never saw them offered elsewhere that I recall. Simple, but good!
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
Easy simple dish utilizing sauerkraut, venison burger, and instant mashed potatoes. It is a riff on shepherd's pie that the retired farm wives cooked in our school cafeteria. We had a Frank's Kraut plant right in town and a number of local farmers grew kraut cabbage on contract for the three local Kraut factories in Black Creek, Shiocton, and Bear Creek.

You haven't enjoyed a high school job until you pitched those huge kraut cabbage heads, 3 at a time, with a pitch fork, up and over the side of a dump truck with an extra plank or two on the top of the box. The best time is in November when it's about 34 degrees and the field thaws in the late morning. The mud is ferocious, usually you are pulling the dump truck with a big ass tractor or a small Cat. The frost is melting off the cabbage heads that the migrant workers have cut with butcher knifes, bent over at the waist. The hardest kind of stoop labor I have ever done. Woe be to any critter like a frog, toad, or meadow vole unlucky enough to run from one of those Mexicans with a butcher knife. They can throw one as accurately as a twenny two at close range. I'd never even look at one of their sisters.

So, melting frost, wet cabbage heads 11 to 15 lbs. each, three speared at a time, lifted over your head as high as you can dripping ice cold muddy water down your neck, for a buck sixty an hour.

Anyway, Shiocton school cafeteria kraut casserole. Brown up a pound of burger, put it in the bottom of a casserole dish, drain 3/4 to 1 lb. of kraut and layer it on top of the burger. Cover that with an inch and a half of mashed potatoes. The very best are home made with a little garlic and some stinky cheese like bleu or feta mixed in. Bake that a half hour at 350. Melt a couple tablespoons of butter in the microwave and brush it on top of the mashed potatoes and put it back in under the broiler until all of the tater peaks are browned.

An excellent variation is to use a good fresh ground bulk sausage in place of the burger. Of course schools used commo ground beef, potatoes, and bent and dented 1 gallon cans of kraut straight from the Frank's plant.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
it's on a few Menu's around here.
my FIL me and one BIL stopped at an extremely small cafe in central Utah years back and they had it on the menu.
the BIL and FIL both ordered one and their 'cook' didn't know how to make it.
i went back in the kitchen and showed him 3 different ways to make one.

my latest food fiasco was seeing Monte Cristo as a special on the board as we walked in.
well yes i say i haven't had one of those in a long time.
it comes out as a club sandwich on french toast.
knowing the owner by sight, i caught him at his table and had some severe words about the concept of a Reuben sandwich covered in egg and fried versus whatever the hell that was they served.
he immediately went and wiped the board clean, and gave me another meal.
i couldn't even try it so i have no idea how bad it was.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
A Monte Cristo properly made is a true joy of life. It's a far cry from a club sandwich or a Rueben. Can be enjoyed with strawberry jam.

That description sounds much like somebody failed culinary school and went to work for a greasy spoon.