Thank you LEOs

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Ian

Notorious member
What the dentist said. Rule of law is largely a voluntary effort on the part of the populace, but for those that don't volunteer we sure do need those "hard men".
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Words can't convey the gratitude I have for our country's police force. A school friend became the county sheriff and another was a deputy sheriff (undercover drug cop), I've known several on the various local city forces, my deceased best friend and reloading mentor's son is a CHP, my niece's housemate is a retired CHP, and a grade school friend was killed (stabbed) during a domestic violence call.

I think volunteering for a job that is mostly thankless, whether it be the police or military, is not for everyone. While I did the later, I could never do the former.

Heartfelt thanks to Allen, Rich H, Brett, L Ross, and anyone else I may have missed.
 

L Ross

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I have no complaints looking back, none. Pay was okay, benefits were okay, retiring the first time at 52 was great. Today's current climate of negativity for law enforcement, aided and abetted by political pandering is extremely offensive. I would no longer recommend it as a career.
 

Tomme boy

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The people that are LEO's nowadays are not in the same league as what we are talking about here. I really respect the older generation of officers. Todays law enforcement not so much. Ever since 911 the whole law enforcement profession has changed. And not for the better.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
The people that are LEO's nowadays are not in the same league as what we are talking about here. I really respect the older generation of officers. Todays law enforcement not so much. Ever since 911 the whole law enforcement profession has changed. And not for the better.
Agree to some extent, but I can't go further without delving into things political. Lets just say it ain't what it used to be!
 

Rick H

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Tomme Boy I don't know if I could agree with you there. I retired 20 yrs ago, and I for one, can tell you I would have an awful time working today. What with camera's, and an even more litigious, and uncooperative public. Hell, the courts are even telling us there are 10 or 12 genders....was simple when I worked, only two.

Today's LEO's are working through societal upheaval......and the cops always take the brunt when that happens. My generation did too, the upheavals of the late 60's through till the 21st Century. The times are different, the current generation is struggling to cope with it just like ours did. They are our kids working the streets now. They are going to fall on their faces now and then. We did in the old days too.

I cut them some slack. They are doing a most difficult job during difficult times. I don't think my answers to the problems of my day would work as well today. I pray they learn what works well for them and us, today. We need them, and they need us as well.
 

Ian

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^^^^ Very well written.

What our society lacks today more than anything is philosophy. Few have a solid concept of where they came from, what it is they're a part of, or how to go about moving forward. Myopia, entitlement, and narcissism/hedonism combined with proud ignorance and lack of critical thinking skills define our popular culture.
 

Petrol & Powder

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Tommy Boy, I don't know what you are basing your view on but you may want to expand your sources of information.

The media, the entertainment industry, academia, large segments of social media and left wing political operatives - all falsely portray American Law Enforcement in a negative light.

It is very easy to get a warped perspective. I don't look at all U.S. Army soldiers as Nidal Hasan, Timothy McVeigh or Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning.
I don't look at all doctors as Larry Nassar or all FBI agents as Robert Hanssen.
Bad actors get the press but they hardly represent the norm.

There are well over 725,000 Federal, State and local law enforcement officers in the U.S.A. Considering a population of well over 328 Million people, the huge geographical size of the U.S.A. and the need for 24 hour a day/7 day and week coverage; that's a remarkably small number of officers. Very, very few officers ever dishonor their profession. You would never know that from watching the news or listening to the liberal rhetoric that is pervasive in our society.

So without getting political, I'll say that Officer Sean Collier, killed by the Boston Marathon bombers or Officer Eric Talley killed just a few weeks ago in Bolder, Colorado don't get the attention of the liberals because those stories don't fit the liberal narrative.
 
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JonB

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^^^^ Very well written.

What our society lacks today more than anything is philosophy. Few have a solid concept of where they came from, what it is they're a part of, or how to go about moving forward. Myopia, entitlement, and narcissism/hedonism combined with proud ignorance and lack of critical thinking skills define our popular culture.
^^^ I couldn't have said it better ^^^
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I wasn't a licensed Peace Officer, but I was a volunteer city police reserve officer in a small rural town for 5 years (1995-2000), spending a considerable amount of time with the full time PD officers was eye opening, I can't even imagine what it's like today.

That's all I'm gonna say...except, I agree with Rockydoc and will reiterate,
"I want to express my sincere gratitude to you [LEOs] for your service.
These are trying times for those who serve to protect."
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
^^^^ Very well written.

What our society lacks today more than anything is philosophy. Few have a solid concept of where they came from, what it is they're a part of, or how to go about moving forward. Myopia, entitlement, and narcissism/hedonism combined with proud ignorance and lack of critical thinking skills define our popular culture.
Ian,
Didn't know you were my neighbor.

Last Summer, the local Black Lives Matter agitators and their Jell-O brain hangers-on were out and about. I saw two city police officers sitting in their cruisers, in the shade of a stand of cypress trees, eating lunch. I walked over, introduced myself, pointed to our house, and told them that my wife and I appreciate all they do.

I do have to edit in a late qualifier: My city's chief-of-police, who is black, took a knee last Summer. I don't care what color anyone's skin is, but that he took a knee was a slap to the faces of all his officers and he lost all my respect.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Some good thoughts expressed here, deeply appreciated by yours truly and others. THANK YOU!

I don't know where to send people for news and straight info. It seems like most mainstream media news is more spin-doctoring and consciousness-raising than factual information. I seldom pay it any mind, it's just propaganda and nonsense. I'm still in close contact with a lot of my shop's active personnel, and the real "Meat and potatoes" of the job is largely unchanged. Headlines change, tools change, but the art remains constant. Most of what we accomplished during my years of service got done in spite of the uneven, inconsistent leadership we were saddled with throughout my career. That phenomenon remains in play 24/7. Most of life is no different--overcoming inertia and apathy in order to prosper and succeed.
 
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Rockydoc

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Tommy Boy, I don't know what you are basing your view on but you may want to expand your sources of information.

The media, the entertainment industry, academia, large segments of social media and left wing political operatives - all falsely portray American Law Enforcement in a negative light.

It is very easy to get a warped perspective. I don't look at all U.S. Army soldiers as Nidal Hasan, Timothy McVeigh or Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning.
I don't look at all doctors as Larry Nassar or all FBI agents as Robert Hanssen.
Bad actors get the press but they hardly represent the norm.

There are well over 725,000 Federal, State and local law enforcement officers in the U.S.A. Considering a population of well over 328 Million people, the huge geographical size of the U.S.A. and the need for 24 hour a day/7 day and week coverage; that's a remarkably small number of officers. Very, very few officers ever dishonor their profession. You would never know that from watching the news or listening to the liberal rhetoric that is pervasive in our society.

So without getting political, I'll say that Officer Sean Collier, killed by the Boston Marathon bombers or Officer Eric Talley killed just a few weeks ago in Bolder, Colorado don't get the attention of the liberals because those stories don't fit the liberal narrative.
AMEN!
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
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I suspect that your Chief's knee was .......... thesaurus moment ......... a soci-protective display to buffer the social lash against beat cops and cruisers more than throwing them under the bus .

All of the LEOs I've dealt with were just folks doing a job .
I've been on both sides of the desk unfortunately . The right side with 10+ yr as a VFD and the wrong side because of the lead foot of my youth , and recently someone else's stupidity .
 
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