400 Legend not starting out well
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CWLONGSHOT
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I have been talking with this guy a little bit.
I like the dies of the 400, but we all know Winchester, aint the Winchester that earned all the respect.
CW
I like the dies of the 400, but we all know Winchester, aint the Winchester that earned all the respect.
CW
CZ93X62
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There's no harm in recycling old ideas like the 351 and 401 Winchester--which is my impression of these AR-series game calibers.
Watching that guy's use of an aluminum cleaning rod to tap out the lodged bullet was painful, and teachable moment was lost. My speculation about the cause of the squib is as valid or as conjectural as the next person's.
Watching that guy's use of an aluminum cleaning rod to tap out the lodged bullet was painful, and teachable moment was lost. My speculation about the cause of the squib is as valid or as conjectural as the next person's.
Tomme boy
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Starline makes 6.8 basic brass. It can be used if you need brass. Defiantly is a primer or free bore issue. I have had it with both instances. Every time it was a ball powder. Once with a 303 Brit using 748. Once in a 45 colt with h110. And once in a 7.62x54r with h335.
The 303 Brit I went to a mag problem and it went away. 45 colt it was too lite of a charge and increasing the charge it went away. 7.62x54r it took a mag primer, not seating the bullet out closer to the lands, and a heavy crimp to stop it. The 303 and the 7.62 were free bore issues from it being way too long. The bullet just had to jump too far before it hit resistance to ignite the powder. The 54 at the time was the worst. You could not touch the rifling with a 200gr Sierra hpbt and still have the bullet seat in the brass. I even turned the bullet around to just see where rifling started at and it would not touch. That gun was made into a wall hanger.
The 303 Brit I went to a mag problem and it went away. 45 colt it was too lite of a charge and increasing the charge it went away. 7.62x54r it took a mag primer, not seating the bullet out closer to the lands, and a heavy crimp to stop it. The 303 and the 7.62 were free bore issues from it being way too long. The bullet just had to jump too far before it hit resistance to ignite the powder. The 54 at the time was the worst. You could not touch the rifling with a 200gr Sierra hpbt and still have the bullet seat in the brass. I even turned the bullet around to just see where rifling started at and it would not touch. That gun was made into a wall hanger.
fiver
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i had issues with 748 in my 303 too.
i was running some thin jacket jacketed bullets on the just lower than low end,,,, but not stupid low.
but it was so erratic i couldn't hardly hold paper at 50 yds.
it worked fine in the 223 at full level so no problem and it's all gone now, but i wasn't expecting it to act like it did in the 303.
i was running some thin jacket jacketed bullets on the just lower than low end,,,, but not stupid low.
but it was so erratic i couldn't hardly hold paper at 50 yds.
it worked fine in the 223 at full level so no problem and it's all gone now, but i wasn't expecting it to act like it did in the 303.
Missionary
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We have a .401 and with a 265 gr cast FN it would make a fine corn cruncher / Black bear rifle at woods ranges. Finally this year ILL-Nois says it is OK to use a straight wall cartridge rifl
But alas we are returning to Peru before the fun begins.
But alas we are returning to Peru before the fun begins.
CZ93X62
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I have only stuck a couple bullets in bores over the years. I went to XXXXX Hardware Store and spent a few bucks on brass rods close to land diameter and gave them wraps of duct tape until they were at land diameter. THEN I tapped out the bullets after LOTS of Hoppe's and a bit of RIG +P laid down in the direction of travel.
After those extractions you have a better idea of the primer forces at work that drive a bullet that far up a rifle bore.
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