9mm Brass
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Winelover
North Central Arkansas
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Arm or Ally is a combat veteran-owned and operated company with locations in North Kansas City, MO and Charlotte, NC. We offer a high quality selection of bullets, new, and once fired brass, and AR components from America’s top manufacturers. We’ve been serving the firearms and reloading community since 2014, during which time we’ve built an amazing team, become more efficient, and kept a low overhead – all factors enabling us to offer our customers the best prices in the industry, and backing it up with the customer service you expect. Arm or Ally is not a job to us, it’s a mission to succeed. We wake up every morning and truly enjoy the service we provide for our customers, and very thankful so many of you allow us to continue serving you over and over again.
Who We Are
Arm or Ally is a combat veteran-owned and operated company with locations in North Kansas City, MO and Charlotte, NC. We offer a high quality selection of bullets, new, and once fired brass, and AR components from America’s top manufacturers. We’ve been serving the firearms and reloading community since 2014, during which time we’ve built an amazing team, become more efficient, and kept a low overhead – all factors enabling us to offer our customers the best prices in the industry, and backing it up with the customer service you expect. Arm or Ally is not a job to us, it’s a mission to succeed. We wake up every morning and truly enjoy the service we provide for our customers, and very thankful so many of you allow us to continue serving you over and over again.
GRMPS
Active Member
You could swedge those primer pockets and make life a little easier
CZ93X62
Official forum enigma
IME, the RCBS primer pocket swaging tool setup (The one with the "stripper washer") was not especially effective on the Win 9mm primer pockets. Thinking back on it now, I might not have used the tool properly, but in the RCBS RockChucker press you would think that the leverage was sufficient to open up a small pistol pocket in 70/30 cartridge brass. I did have concerns about bending the center rod in the die with too much cam-over force.
Maybe I should try again, and GO MONGO on that bad boy. I have an inborn caution against bending and breaking tools that I need to grow out of, now that I can afford to replace them. I grew up with a Dad and uncles that were pretty strident about "If you are good to your tools, they will be good to you". Too much of a good thing might be bad, at times. My impression overall......the RCBS die/stripper thing was meant to swage the military crimp out of surplus milspec brass, and NOT to reform the primer pocket in its entirety. I might be expecting too much result from too little tool here.
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GRMPS
Active Member
The RCBS primmer pocket tool is a good tool IF you use case lube one the swedge pin. Otherwise, it's a fight. I fought mine so long I traded for a Dillon --- GREAT TOOL!!! as I was waiting for the Dillon to arrive I put some case lube on the pin and darn if it didn't work sooooooooo much better
CZ93X62
Official forum enigma
OK, interesting. The RCBS tool does a GREAT job on the crimps, no doubt about it. I do have some W-W 9mm factory ammo on hand for the girls' Glocks. When they change out ammo in a few months (they fire off the old stuff), I'll scrounge the brass and see what I can do with this new info. Thank you!
I have whined and moaned about the 9mm/147 grain sub-sonic load's lackluster ballistics at some length, here and elsewhere. Its saving graces are that it is 1) VERY accurate and 2) a very docile load for less-than-enthusiastic shooters to manage. A couple of our daughters are not fond of recoil at all, which is also something of a trait with LE recruits currently. There might be some hidden wisdom/genius to Dr. Fackler's innovation here that i did not previously appreciate. All this to say--the brass from these W-W loads were the chief offenders as far as the "tight primer pockets" phenomenon was concerned.
Gotta live in the world we actually HAVE, not the one we would prefer. This goes for daughters' ammo preferences, all-copper bullets in Kalifornistan, unleaded gas, and deficit spending.
I have whined and moaned about the 9mm/147 grain sub-sonic load's lackluster ballistics at some length, here and elsewhere. Its saving graces are that it is 1) VERY accurate and 2) a very docile load for less-than-enthusiastic shooters to manage. A couple of our daughters are not fond of recoil at all, which is also something of a trait with LE recruits currently. There might be some hidden wisdom/genius to Dr. Fackler's innovation here that i did not previously appreciate. All this to say--the brass from these W-W loads were the chief offenders as far as the "tight primer pockets" phenomenon was concerned.
Gotta live in the world we actually HAVE, not the one we would prefer. This goes for daughters' ammo preferences, all-copper bullets in Kalifornistan, unleaded gas, and deficit spending.
Ian
Notorious member
I'll add ethanol gas to your list. Wise words, basically fix what you can and deal with the rest as cheerfully as possible. I don't load 9mm but suspect that some company, probably with a blue trademark color, makes a power uniformer which cleans up depth, diameter, and crimp in one shot. Aren't sp and sr boxer primers dimensionally identical?
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freebullet
Guest
Never measured but did use srp in 9 for some years during shortages. It amounts to a .2gr reduction w/tg. Rcbs swagger is great. Never used on 9, collect so much any with any issue goes in scrap bucket. Always more...
