Aluminum-based food grade grease?

Elkins45

Active Member
I finally got around to testing my nanner puddin lube in a rifle. I posted targets and a description over at the other site, but I remember this thread and wanted to revisit. I haven't had a chance to chronograph yet, but I shot probably the best group my old 308 Mauser has ever produced using 16 grains of 300-MP and the Ed Harris Lee pointy nose bullet. Guesstimated velocity is around 1500 fps, assuming 300-MP burns slightly slower than 2400. I had never used this powder or bullet before, but I used this lube. Who knows which factor or factors caused it to perform so well, but I'm going to start testing a slightly faster load with the same bullet/lube every time I go to the range.

The bore looks great and accuracy was the best ever. It's supposed to drop below freezing here this weekend, so maybe I can find out how temperature sensitive it is.
 

Ian

Notorious member
This is BW, CRC H1, and Gulf wax, right?

Should be fine unless the barrel and/or ambient temperature get high, or you get it anywhere near an Alox product. I'll be interested to see if you experience "goose chit syndrome" above 90°F.
 

Elkins45

Active Member
This is BW, CRC H1, and Gulf wax, right?

Yes, it is. The Gulf wax was an involuntary addition because 50/50 was just too soft to handle well. Even with 1/3 paraffin it's still not what you would call a stiff consistency.
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
I am glad that there are a bunch of guys on this forum who like to play with lubes. I am
also glad that I am not one of them. A number of years back someone recommended LAR's
lubes, I tried them and they worked very well. Probably have a 8-10 year supply of LAR's,
BUT then really got interested in BEN's Red, and use it exclusively now. Don't know that it
is better than some of the LAR's, but kind of feel it is. And, I exclusively one coat BLL on
all my cast bullets. Takes little time, leading practically eliminated. Only exception is some
Green lube that Brad mixed up for real cold hunting weather. Have a lifetime supply of the
stuff. Bottom line, my philosophy is, "if it works, I don't fix it."

Paul
 

Ian

Notorious member
I have the same philosophy regarding fixing things that aren't broken...however, for my purposes, the vast majority of bullet lube recipes ARE broken, so I keep trying to develop a better mouse trap.
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
Which is why I keep reading you Ian! Go hard for the best mouse trap! I will support you.

Paul
 

Intheshop

Banned
I've used the same lube for 40 years,however.......

Still like,and try to understand what ya'll are testing.Just how it has been working here but,I'm using less and less these days in rifles.Medium-upper medium velocity....2000-2400 fps.

But carry on,very interesting data.BW
 

Ian

Notorious member
Here's my touchstone, in the context of Goldilocks.

Three guns, three test temperatures, three shooting regimens.

One "high powered" medium bore rifle, .25-30 caliber. One big bore rifle. One semi-auto handgun.

Shoot a fouling session with each and let sit at least 24 hours. Do not clean.

Test at lowest and highest temperatures ever expected to be encountered. Test at a comfortable ambient.

Fore every gun, at each temperature, shoot four, five-shot groups as follows: Two, five-shot groups with cooling period, record sequence and POI on target. Rest minimum of 48 hours and repeat for each gun.

At highest test temperature, complete the series for each gun by rapid-firing 20-50 rounds followed by a 10-shot accuracy group.

Review targets for 1. First shot POI relative to group at each temperature. 2. Average group dispersion at each temperature during slow-fire. 3. Relative group dispersion after rapid-fire at high temperature.

If your first shots are always within the group, dispersion doesn't change when the barrels get hot in hot weather, and the group dispersion is comparable to the best lube you were using before, then you have a winner.

PS if you achieve this, etch the recipe in granite and post a photo of it here please.