Does Longshot work well for anything?

Mitty38

Mitty38

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I've got about 3 lbs of Longshot that I acquired during the "shortage". So I could load 45 acp. Was kinda "hot" for the 45.
Well finaly got some w231 and it works way better.
Well I have tried it several ways in 38 spcl., 357, 9mm and .380. It's way outshined by Red Dot and Unique. Long shot just seams to work but always never good enough. Or with an excessive fire show, or just plane abuse to the shooter and gun. Half tempted to make fertilizer out of my supply.
What does this powder excell in???
Obviously has to in something I do not load for. Cause they still sell the stuff.
 
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Intel6

Intel6

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I use it for higher end 10mm loads since it is a ball powder and meters well in my progressives. It is also a great powder for full power slug and buckshot loads in 12 ga. shoshell loading.
 
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Hot 40 S&W loads, hot 9mm loads, and hot 357 SIG loads.

I also have a lot of misc powders that I bought because they were in stock when my preferred powders were not. On the brighter side, there were times that I stepped up to the plate right smartly when I found what I was looking for.
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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Think I'm going to try it in 20 gauge.
When I finally find a recipe for it with Cheddite 209 primers.

Found a 3/4 oz. And a 7/8 oz Recipe. But they both take Winchester primers. I hear primer selection is way more critical in shoot shell reloading.
 
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fiver

fiver

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not quite.
the Cheddites are more kind of in between win and the fed 209-A with a lean more towards the Fed.
i wouldn't be scared to use them in place of win data if the loads are a K or so away from max MAP.

long shot works pretty good in the 41 and 44 mag. BTW.
 
Ian

Ian

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Longshot does many things well. .40 short and weak for example. Nothing better for my .38/357 Magnum shot loads using shot cups. Also nothing better for my .458 SOCOM 500-grain cast bullet subsonic loads that must cycle an AR-15. If you jeed something that burns a little cleaner than HS-6 and something just a touch slower than Herco, Longshot is your powder.
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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All calibers, or disciplines. I have not delved into yet.
I might have to try the 357 shot loads. At least that's one I can do.
That and the 20 gauge Winchester loads with Cheddites.
 
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Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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The win 209's I have are still in the older white boxes. I have not seen any difference in any loads that I use the Cheddite's in. Just remember that the ched primers are a little bigger so if you use USA primers you will have to swage the primer pocket. I use a 3/8" socket extension and stick it in the hull and give it a whack. Thats what I have been doing with all kinds of the Euro hulls to use different primers in them.

Only time I have had problems with the cheddites was I stuck a tapered hull wad in a straight walled hull. I got bloopers when I did that. I pulled a couple apart and a lot of powder went past the base of the wad. I then tried sticking a piece of news paper over the base of the wad as I seated it. Problem solved. A cheap way to use what you have and make it work.

I have even had problems with powder leeching using the straight walled wads. Some of the euro hulls can be very thin. Those are the ones that leech powder. The paper over the wad stops it.

The straight wall hulls seem to work better for me. I lot of the loads in the books don't fit well in tapered hulls. I always end up buckling them or the crimp opens up after a day.
 
fiver

fiver

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some of the euro hulls are huge internally, and not just in length, their width can be as much as 20 thou bigger than most 'American' type wads gas cups are.
i have about 12 cut down hulls and at least 15 different wads sitting on the shelf behind my shot shell bench, i keep them there to remind me every time i think i need to use up 'those' wads and those hulls filling up that tote would be a good place for them.
i can pick one of each up and give them a test fit, if it rattles back and forth i don't even need to get the calipers out.
 
Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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Thats why I use the paper over the base wad Fiver. I have also taken a 13ga nitro card and put it under the base wad. This really flairs out the seal and get no powder seepage. It also help to not blow the out the seal in some higher PSI loads. And longshot seems to blow out wads faster than a lot of other powders. I run into this a lot doing slugs. As there is not data anywhere out there for the Russian slugs. So I tend to find data for the 1 oz. Lyman Foster slug or the data for the Ballistic products Thug Slugs.
 
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cheoah

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Bought some Loudshot several years ago for shotshells, can't even remember which, maybe sub gauge. Use it for .40 full house loads now in a heavy double stack 1911 and I'm not all that wild about that whole program. Too many quiet, clean, easy shooting powders in the cabinet.

I will likely run a bunch of it through my 28 gauge autoloader for sporting clays. Now I remember that's what I got it for, but eventually moved to Alliant 20/28.
 
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