Love My RCBS Molds!

swc-tr

New Member
I have owned 8 different RCBS moulds since the early 1980's, in rifle and pistol calibers, no issues with them, top quality imho.
This is news to me that they cast undersize bullets, maybe I've just been lucky.
Can't say the same about Lyman moulds, they are notoriuosly undersize in the examples I have had.
 

Mainiac

Well-Known Member
I have owned 8 different RCBS moulds since the early 1980's, in rifle and pistol calibers, no issues with them, top quality imho.
This is news to me that they cast undersize bullets, maybe I've just been lucky.
Can't say the same about Lyman moulds, they are notoriuosly undersize in the examples I have had.
Same here,,all my rcbs are at least .002,,the 32/98swc is .004 over.perfect,,,lyman,everyone is undersize.
 

seagiant

Member
Hi,
As I stated, my RCBS is a little undersize, but...

They shoot good/accurate, with no leading, so I am good.

Someone else into numbers, may not be, and that is fine.

We are all different, and have to please ourselves. :cool:
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Got a 325 gr mold for my .45-70, haven't had a chance to try it yet, same with a couple of .277 caliber molds. Got a 45-201 SWC that works great in every thing I've tried it in, it's got a longer nose than the typical 200 gr SWC. Every other RCBS mold I have works great. I can live with two cavity in rifle calibers, wish they made four cavity versions of their pistol calibers.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Long before the internet, I started casting. Had to rely on published recommendations from the manufacturers of reloading/casting equipment. Mainly, RCBS & Lyman.

Back then, reloading suppliers, like Mid-South & Natchez, put out catalogs. In those catalogs were reprints of RCBS's products. There use to be charts with bullet moulds offered, sizer dies, & top punches..............including part numbers and recommended sizing die selection.

Today, I was going through my old literature and found such chart in a 1984 RCBS catalog.

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All across the board/chart, RCBS recommends sizing to nominal jacketed bullet diameter. :eek: No wonder their bullet moulds tend to run small. Fine, if you can get away using that size bullet, I rarely can.

Let's take 44 Magnum. A .429 diameter sizer is the specified. Now, if you look at the chart in the bottom left of the page, they list .430 & .431 dizers, as alternates. Now if you need .432, .433 or .434 for your Marlin or revolver with oversize throats, your SOL. Remember, this is 1984, no internet to find custom sizer makers.

We all should know by now, that the harder the alloy the larger it will cast. The opposite is true, also. The softer the alloy, the smaller the casting will be. Now, if you peruse the Lyman Cast Bullet Manual, particularly, the third edition (1980) you will mostly see that Lyman is giving cast data for mainly bullets cast from linotype, which is harder than the majority of us use. They also recommend sizing on the small side. Consequently, there is no need for them to supply molds that drop bullets, much larger than nominal jacketed size bullets. If you happen to stumble on one that casts large enough, go out and buy a lottery ticket.

Most of my revolvers have large throats, right from the factory. I have a early model RH in 44 Magnum. I used RCBS's 240 SWC GC in the Redhawk for 25+ years. Could barely drop a bullet at .430 diameter. I sized to .429 diameter, per RCBS's recommendation, and never any got leading. Treestand accuracy was superb. Worked just fine for deer. Then I got a 1894 Marlin. Fifty yard accuracy was dismal, with cast. It wasn't till I started buying molds from custom makers that I got the accuracy I wanted. However, sizing to .433 diameter was required. No over the counter mold will regularly drop near that size. Tried those sized bullets in the RH's throat and they are a nice slip fit. My CA 2.5" barreled Bulldog is the same way.

An 80's vintage 45 LC Blackhawk likes .454 sized cast. The RCBS mold (250 SWC) won't drop better than .452 diameter. Again, used that bullet for 20 years before I purchased MP's clone of RCBS 300 SAA. Worked OK at treestand distances and no leading but not ideal for longer ranges.

Pythons are known for barrels running .355.............wouldn't know, cause I don't slug barrels. Don't own pin gauges, either. Since the late 70's my only 38/357 bullet was the RCBS 158 SWC GC............358 is the best it will drop. Superb accuracy, with no leading at 20-25 yards. Throats are over sized, will accept a .359 casting but not the .360's, I use for the Rossi carbine...........those get cast from custom makers.

Even a blind squirrel will find an acorn, once in a while. Not going to chance spending $90 (retail) on a two cavity RCBS iron mold, when I can take that money and put it into a custom mold for just a little more............and actually get what I want.

Not saying all RCBS or Lyman molds are undersize, just not my experience. Now if you PC, you can get away with undersize, cause you're adding diameter. I don't, just call me old school.
 

Bazoo

Active Member
Long before the internet, I started casting. Had to rely on published recommendations from the manufacturers of reloading/casting equipment. Mainly, RCBS & Lyman.

Back then, reloading suppliers, like Mid-South & Natchez, put out catalogs. In those catalogs were reprints of RCBS's products. There use to be charts with bullet moulds offered, sizer dies, & top punches..............including part numbers and recommended sizing die selection.

Today, I was going through my old literature and found such chart in a 1984 RCBS catalog.

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All across the board/chart, RCBS recommends sizing to nominal jacketed bullet diameter. :eek: No wonder their bullet moulds tend to run small. Fine, if you can get away using that size bullet, I rarely can.

Let's take 44 Magnum. A .429 diameter sizer is the specified. Now, if you look at the chart in the bottom left of the page, they list .430 & .431 dizers, as alternates. Now if you need .432, .433 or .434 for your Marlin or revolver with oversize throats, your SOL. Remember, this is 1984, no internet to find custom sizer makers.

We all should know by now, that the harder the alloy the larger it will cast. The opposite is true, also. The softer the alloy, the smaller the casting will be. Now, if you peruse the Lyman Cast Bullet Manual, particularly, the third edition (1980) you will mostly see that Lyman is giving cast data for mainly bullets cast from linotype, which is harder than the majority of us use. They also recommend sizing on the small side. Consequently, there is no need for them to supply molds that drop bullets, much larger than nominal jacketed size bullets. If you happen to stumble on one that casts large enough, go out and buy a lottery ticket.

Most of my revolvers have large throats, right from the factory. I have a early model RH in 44 Magnum. I used RCBS's 240 SWC GC in the Redhawk for 25+ years. Could barely drop a bullet at .430 diameter. I sized to .429 diameter, per RCBS's recommendation, and never any got leading. Treestand accuracy was superb. Worked just fine for deer. Then I got a 1894 Marlin. Fifty yard accuracy was dismal, with cast. It wasn't till I started buying molds from custom makers that I got the accuracy I wanted. However, sizing to .433 diameter was required. No over the counter mold will regularly drop near that size. Tried those sized bullets in the RH's throat and they are a nice slip fit. My CA 2.5" barreled Bulldog is the same way.

An 80's vintage 45 LC Blackhawk likes .454 sized cast. The RCBS mold (250 SWC) won't drop better than .452 diameter. Again, used that bullet for 20 years before I purchased MP's clone of RCBS 300 SAA. Worked OK at treestand distances and no leading but not ideal for longer ranges.

Pythons are known for barrels running .355.............wouldn't know, cause I don't slug barrels. Don't own pin gauges, either. Since the late 70's my only 38/357 bullet was the RCBS 158 SWC GC............358 is the best it will drop. Superb accuracy, with no leading at 20-25 yards. Throats are over sized, will accept a .359 casting but not the .360's, I use for the Rossi carbine...........those get cast from custom makers.

Even a blind squirrel will find an acorn, once in a while. Not going to chance spending $90 (retail) on a two cavity RCBS iron mold, when I can take that money and put it into a custom mold for just a little more............and actually get what I want.

Not saying all RCBS or Lyman molds are undersize, just not my experience. Now if you PC, you can get away with undersize, cause you're adding diameter. I don't, just call me old school.
Man that is a cool, I'd love to have a copy of that.

I always buy used moulds when I can, and thus I've been pretty lucky. But I agree that a custom is better if you're going to spend the cash. But the rcbs and lyman moulds that do cast good, are my prized moulds.
 

seagiant

Member
Hi,
Thanks for that, great Post and Pics!

I have the RCBS 44-250-K and the 35-200 Molds, and...

Don't see moving away from those for my 44 Mag. and 35 Rem. needs!
 

seagiant

Member
This photo is USELESS without phone number and address!

Of course, if glamour shots of cheesecake chicas worked as intended, I could hang a brush fire picture in my living room to heat the house in winter.
Hi,
Sounds like you need to go to the Bar, buy some drinks and make some new friends...
 

seagiant

Member
Marie would take a dim view of any 'New friend(s)' regardless of the meet site. Castilian Basque ladies like her can go from 'Zero' to 'Inquisicion!' at light-speed. Survival rate is rumored to be quite low.
Hi,
I've been married to a Puerto Rican, via Valencia, for 35 years, so...

Been there, done that!