Marlin 336 + LEE 35-200

gman

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IMG_0566.JPG Shot a few groups while chronographing some 3031 loads for the 336 35 Remington. Having shot this powder in this rifle before I started with 36 grains and stopped at 37 grains. Best accuracy showed at 36.5 grains. LEE 35-200 RF pc'd, aluminum gas check and sized at .35925. I didn't adjust scope from shooting 180 grain Speer loads. Did not like 37 grains. If I can get consistent 3 shot groups like this target shows the first three in shot order I may have something.
 

Josh

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This is completely off topic, but I find your penmanship very pleasing to look at. I only wish my scratch was half as good.

Even the group in the photo is sho'nuff for hunting anything bigger than a coyote. Good deal, and good shooting.
 

Ian

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30-31 grains of Reloder 7 or 36-37 grains of H335 are a couple that worked out well for me, too. The 336 in .35 Remington just doesn't seem to be too picky with this bullet.

FWIW I used Hornady checks tapped on with a deadblow mallet and then base-first sized the bullets to .360".
 

gman

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May try the Reloader 7 just to see. Cast and coated some today. Will have wait till next 7 days off. Headed to the big pond in about 7 hours.
 

JWFilips

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have the Lee and also the RD. Hope one or the other will do that well!

Oscar,
Here is what my 35 Rem in a 1960 issue 336 Marlin does with the 190 gr Ranch dog.
I really think Michael designed these well!
Jim
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oscarflytyer

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JW - Thanx

Cpl things. 1) any idea what the velocity is for that AS load? And the other is, bummer for me - I don't have or use any AM Select! - of course! I am hanging my hat on RL7/IMR3031/H335 right now... Only time will tell

And Ian/gman - thanx for the load data. as yo see above, you guys are using the powders I expected to use, and have had some great luck with RL7 in 30-30.

JW - Alibi ? - with that kind of group at 50 yds. What, if anything have you done to accurize your 336? Free-floated the forearm for example? Thanx
 

gman

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That 36.5 grain load of 3031 is just below 2100fps and I believe that's about where Ian's load is at. I'll probably try some 335 also just to look for the best accuracy in a hunting load. Good luck with your rifle!
 

JWFilips

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Oscar: I'm only shooting for target now days so I'm thinking 1200 fps; but not really a hunting load: however I wouldn't hesitate to take a white tail with it up to 100 yds!
I come from a flintlock round ball load world.... Hunted that exclusively for many years! So I can tell you a modern arm at 1200 fps with a 190 gr cast projectile will kill a deer If you know how to shoot it!
Jim
 

oscarflytyer

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Oscar: I'm only shooting for target now days so I'm thinking 1200 fps; but not really a hunting load: however I wouldn't hesitate to take a white tail with it up to 100 yds!
I come from a flintlock round ball load world.... Hunted that exclusively for many years! So I can tell you a modern arm at 1200 fps with a 190 gr cast projectile will kill a deer If you know how to shoot it!
Jim

Oh no doubt it will! I do set mine up to hunt and I hunt my own property that is nearly all brush. Shoot mostly levers in 30-30, 32 WS, 35 Rem, 45-70 - all cast. My first/only cast load deer so far was the 45-70, 405 HB @ 1325 fps. Flipped a small Southern WT at 85 yds. I def know don't need to make it scream to get it to work. But do like to push as fast as I can and keep accuracy w/o busting my poor rebuilt shoulder!
 

Ian

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35 Remington flat nose bullets drop like rocks as it is out past 75 yards, so I go for a decent amount of speed. My 37 grain H335 load is bumping right below 2100 fps and the 31 grain RX-7 load right at 2000 IIRC. Neither are absolute maximum loads pressure-wise, but are close and definitely near the point of diminishing returns regarding the pressure/velocity curve of a 208-grain bullet in a 20" barrel. I don't like punishing my ears when hunting, my shoulder, or my rifles and brass, so when I get up near the top and find a load still groups well, I tend to quit while I'm ahead. If I ever feel the need for more power in a .35 I'll step up to a 358 Winchester...or the Whelen...rather than hot-rod the little Remington cartridge.

Six to eight inches of drop at 100 for a 50-yard zero and 500 fps loss starting from 2100 is something that you definitely need to take into consideration when hunting, even at relatively close range. If you're used to "modern" ballistics where you don't even need to think about drop tables until at least 150 yards, much less losing 25% of your killing power at a range most of us could throw a rock, it's an eye-opener. My 300 Blackout shoots heavier bullets much flatter. BUT, the 35 is a hammer and a half when you need it, cuts through light sticks and heavy grass without deflecting much at all, and the 336 is about as handy and fast a rifle as has ever been made. Great combo for tight, fast, heavy work.
 

oscarflytyer

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Ian - your 37/H335 is equiv to 180 jacketed 38 grn load I am sure. almost same with RL7. Great news is, with these calibers/GCs you can do that and it works great! Mike (RD) pushes his designs at/beyond. And says the faster the better! I have some of his and working on accuracy at less than max just because of my wimpy old rebuilt shoulder. But for 30-30/32WS/35 Rem I am looking to push a cast at/near jacketed. Recoil is neglible and if they shoot/group great I am happy!