Measuring accuracy, I’ve been doing it wrong.
- Thread starter BBerguson
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Yes, outside to outside minus the bullet diameter is the way I was taught. The strangest match I ever went to we were shooting groups with muzzleloaders. Two RO's pulled a string to the centers and measured the string. I offered a set of calipers, should have seen the look they gave me!!!!!
Or there was a time in an indoor range, a guy in the next bay ran a full size human silly-wet out to 10 yds, and proceeded to put 10 shots through the x ring with a 223 ar. replaced that target with another, same drill. Did that 6 or 8 times. Neatly rolled up all the shot targets and left.
Here's the question, were those targets shown for group size at x? yds or for his ability at long range. We will never know.
Tony
Or there was a time in an indoor range, a guy in the next bay ran a full size human silly-wet out to 10 yds, and proceeded to put 10 shots through the x ring with a 223 ar. replaced that target with another, same drill. Did that 6 or 8 times. Neatly rolled up all the shot targets and left.
Here's the question, were those targets shown for group size at x? yds or for his ability at long range. We will never know.
Tony
BBerguson
Official Pennsyltuckian
Yeah, the first two shots are almost touching so they have a 1/4 inch group and then they get a flyer or three that they don’t count! Somewhere on YouTube there was a video where a guy was bragging about the sub MOA group his rifle/loads was shooting. He had a good four shot group with one flyer that he didn’t measure, it was a flyer and I guess it didn’t count. All of this on video! He got blasted pretty good in the comments. I’ll have to see if I can find it, I think he was shooting a 6.5 Creedmoor.
BBerguson
Official Pennsyltuckian
I found the video And it’s better than I remember!!!
You only have to watch 5 minutes of this to see what I’m talking about. Now the point he’s trying to make is about the value of neck turning and his groups do prove this out. But, he has a WIDE flyer to his other four shots and blows it off like it doesn’t count at all. Maybe he talks more about it in the next 10 minutes but I decided I wasn’t wasting any more of my time based on what I just saw.
Yeah, looking at the group on the right (the picture posted here from YouTube) is the group I’m talking about. The flyer in the bullseye (his fourth shot) doesn’t count according to him...
You only have to watch 5 minutes of this to see what I’m talking about. Now the point he’s trying to make is about the value of neck turning and his groups do prove this out. But, he has a WIDE flyer to his other four shots and blows it off like it doesn’t count at all. Maybe he talks more about it in the next 10 minutes but I decided I wasn’t wasting any more of my time based on what I just saw.
Yeah, looking at the group on the right (the picture posted here from YouTube) is the group I’m talking about. The flyer in the bullseye (his fourth shot) doesn’t count according to him...
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L Ross
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I also see just the opposite side of the measurement comedy. Guys will say, "Yup, got limit of 10" bluegills yesterday!" I always reach for the brown penalty flag in my back pocket. I manage to catch several hundred to perhaps a little over a thousand fish each Winter from the same bodies of water these fellas are talking about. I fish with some other pretty good "sticks" including my wife. When we get a really big bluegill we put it on a ruler before we release it. If we get two or three actual 10" gills all Winter, between us, we count ourselves lucky.
It'd be hilarious if these fishermen were shooters too, and got their rulers mixed up.
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