My Winchester 1895

StrawHat

Well-Known Member
While I am normally thought of as a revolver sort of fellow, I do appreciate long arms. Since this is a lever action forum, here is my entry into this field.

As you can tell this is a Winchester Model 1895. It started life chambered for the 30 Government cartridge but by the time it got to me the bore was beyond recognition. I tried scrubbing, soaking, and praying. Nothing worked. So, off to my gunsmith I go. He takes one look and says “I have just the thing for you!” Normally that means money and this was no different. He handed me som thing that resembled a wagon axle, a out 30” long and 1 1/2” in diameter. Looking at one end I see a hole through the bar. 40 caliber he says. We talk some more and it is decided he will install this barrel, turn it to dimension a bit larger than factory and finish it at 27”. Oh, and chamber it for the 405 WCF. A couple of months later I get a call it is ready for pick up. While I was waiting I found the Lyman rear sight I wanted. When the rifle came home I installed the rear sight and took it out to sight in with factory ammunition. My sighting in is a bit different from many. I use a standing rest for any cartridge that is beyond benchrest recoil. And I try to take a minimum of shots from rest. So load three, chamber one, perfect sight picture, squeeze, BOOM! Binoculars make it easy to read the target. Adjust rear sight windage, chamber one, resight, squeeze, BOOM! Read the target, adjust windage, you get the picture. Once windage is adjusted satisfactorily I adjust elevation. Usually from start to finish, 10 shots or less. Once the factory load is sighted in I record the sight markings and called it good.

Next is a reload. I like cast bullets and have had good success with 5744. When trying to duplicate blackpowder loads I use a 40% number, ie for the 50-70 cartridge, 40% of 70 is 28 so I would use 28 grains of 5744 to equal a 70 grain load of blackpowder. Since the 405 was based on the 40-72, I used 28 grains. For a bullet, the Lyman mold 412263 cast 30/1 and spark it all with a large rifle primer, usually CCI. Next time out to the range, sight this one in and record the markings. This is the load the rifle stays set on.

I did discover one problem. The magazine will not feed the bottom round when I load 4. From what i have found on line, there were different magazine boxes for different cartridges(?). The base of the 30 Government and the 405 look the same from what I can tell but apparently not. The gunsmith has taken down his shingle so no luck there. Looking for suggestions that do not require the use of a Dremel tool. But, 3 rounds of 405 ought to be good enough for most situations.

It is a fun rifle to shoot and hopefully I will take a deer with it.

Sorry for the long winded post.

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Kevin
 
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StrawHat

Well-Known Member
I agree about the magazine. It could comfortably become a two shooter and I would not mind.

Here is a photo where I teamed the 405 with a 45 ACP. If i ever wear a tin star again this would be my preference for duty.

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I would prefer my 4”, 1917. Not sure why I did not pose that pairng?

Kevin
 
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FrankCVA42

Active Member
I've an 1895 in 30 U.S. aka 30-40 Krag. That was one of the hardest barrels is has even been my misfortune to clean. Saddle ring carbine. Bubba got to it first. Must have been fired with the old cupronickle ammo. Great big lumps of fouling on the tops of the lands. Firt couple of weeeks tried just about all the solvents I had and made a big dent in my 30 caliber brush stocks. Had to completely dis assemble it to clean years of assorted junk out of the action. Then promptly forgot on how to reassemble it. Called the NRA to see if I could get a copy of the re print on how to dis and reassemble it. Lady I talked to didn't know what I was talking about. Seems they hired a sun contractor to fill that slot. If anyone has a copy of the disassembly and reassembly instructions I would gladly pay for any copy fees and postage and my gratitude. Frank
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
I came very close to buying an original 1895 in 405 Winchester along about 1997 from a shop near my duty station where I spent entirely too much money and perhaps a bit too much time. $1500 was more than I could afford in 1997 dollars, though. The crescent steel buttplate promised recoil dynamics that--as I had pushed well past my 40th year--might have been a bridge too far. I already had a 7-1/4# Ruger #1 in 45/70 that provided sufficient sport of that sort whenever I wanted it, capably assisted by 350 grain Hornady bullets at 2000+ FPS. Nah, it stepped up to the plate with an 0-2 count already. TR's "Big Medicine" would be cool to hunt with, but rhinos and cape buffalo are conspicuous by their absence in the southern third of Kalifornistan.

The same seller that had the 1895 consigned at the shop had an 1873 Winchester in--of all calibers--22 Short rimfire for sale at the same time. It too was in showroom shape. Pricing was ridiculous (I thought) at $2200. A few years later I saw a similar rifle at the Big Reno Gun Show, tagged at $4500. Too cold for my climate. I did meet the owner of these oddities, he was a retired aerospace engineer from Rohr in Riverside. Nice guy, and I bought an RWS 52 air rifle from him in 25 caliber that is NOT STOCK. He took the thing to an airgun-enthusiast business in Huntington Beach where they soup-up and accurize airguns. Its sidelever must be cocked to be believed--it is one iron-clad puppy mother to get opened and set. He had it re-sprung handsomely. The rifle does launch 27 grain Beeman Crow Magnum pellets at 800 FPS, and it collects ground squirrels decisively to 50 yards. The vibrations kill scopes decisively, too--which is why the guy was selling it. Fun toy.
 
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Ian

Notorious member
Teddy Roosevelt's African rifle IIRC. When I read the hole was .40 caliber I immediately went "AhhHA!" Glad it turned out. I fully agree with Spindrift, if three rounds of .405 won't kill it, it definitely deserves a heart-felt apology and a free pass.