Running QuickLOAD on a iMac with Winebottler

[Rockydoc]

QuickLOAD is a Windows application. I am an Apple man. I have an old HP laptop running Windows (7 I think) just for the purpose of running QuickLOADS. I don't like Windows!

I have heard of a program called Wine that runs Windows programs on Linux. I don't know how to run Linux. There is a program called Winebottler that uses Wine to "bottle" QuickLOAD into an app that will run on a Mac. I have Wine and Winebottler on my Mac desktop computer but I can't figure out how to get QuickLOAD from the CD disk drive and bottled into an app to run on my Mac.

Can any of you help me with that?

 

[Ian]

@Brad ?

 

[Brad]

No clue. I don’t have a Mac so no experience with it.
I will ask Kevin and see what he says.

 

[Ian]

Sorry Brad, I thought you ran Macs since you had iFon/Pad. I run QL on an old desktop pc with W7 Pro.

 

[Brad]

My desktop dies and I had to switch to Win 10. QL doesn’t seem to want to run on it now. Luckily I have a Microsoft Surface and it runs fine on it. Odd thing is it also is Win 10?

I am too cheap to get a Mac.

 

[fiver]

there's ten and then there's the patched and repaired after the 20 million complaints 10.
I'm still running 7 because it works, except more and more stuff won't support it anymore.

 

[Hawk]

Yep, I'm still running Win 7 Pro, also.
Lots of pages warning that they will no longer support 7.
I guess some day, I'll have to move to something else.
I read that Win 10 will soon be replaced by something else, but don't remember what that was.

 

[fiver]

I seen an advert for a free trial of 11.
I'm not big on being the trial guy with stuff I don't care enough to learn and just want to work.

 

[Rockydoc]

My desktop dies and I had to switch to Win 10. QL doesn’t seem to want to run on it now. Luckily I have a Microsoft Surface and it runs fine on it. Odd thing is it also is Win 10?

I am too cheap to get a Mac.

If you get a Mac, you'll never look back....... and the prices have started to come closer to windows.

 

[hporter]

It has been too many years since I tried Wine on my Mac to remember how to load the bottle. I used a front end program for Wine called Crossover for Mac.

I never had good luck getting Wine to work. And when it did work, it often crashed. I paid for several upgraded versions of Crossover, but it would never work reliably with the programs I wanted to use.

If you have a windows installation disk, please consider trying an emulation program instead.

Virtualbox is an emulator program made by the database company Oracle. It works extremely well and it is free to use. And more importantly, it has never crashed on me and I have used it for many years.

Oracle VM VirtualBox

www.virtualbox.org

I use it on my Mac to run Autocad, Microsoft Access and I have several film negative scanners that require windows software to run them. You can configure it to read USB ports to see your printer or external devices like my film scanners. It can connect to the internet through your Mac too.

It works with just about any operating system. I have personally used it with Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows 7. I also have a Mac OSX 10.6 OS installed to run my old Quickbooks for Mac program on.

Essentially, you create a virtual hard disk on your Mac. The emulator loads Windows through your installation disk.

After the Windows install is completed, you click on the virtual drive and the version of Windows that you just installed fires up.

It is just like you were running a PC on your Mac. You can expand the emulator window to take up your full monitor screen and it seems as though you are using a PC rather than a Mac. You would then just load the Quickload program just like you would on a windows machine.

The only tricky part can be getting the emulator to see your CD drive or USB thumb drive. But it is simple enough to go into the port settings to add the drive. And it might take a try or two to get it to see your printer. But once it is setup properly, you should never have to fool with it again.

Sorry I can’t answer your question about Wine, but hopefully this might help get your Quickload program up and running on your Mac.

Harold

 

[popper]

Mac is essentially a version of Unix. Find a version of VMware that will run on your machine, go into the port settings to add the drive - refer to VM help page. Haven't used Wine in 20 yrs, a poor application at best. Oh, VM runs slow unless you have a lot of Ram. Same problem with old windows laptops - slow processors and minimal ram. Actually Win 7 (besides the buffer over-run problems abound) is best Win system.

 

[Rockydoc]

Harold and Popper,
Thank you for you responses. I am not very good with what goes on inside a computer, like port settings, etc. and I barely know how to run an app on Windows 7, which is what my HP laptop is. I will give your suggestions a try and hope for the best.
Once again, thank you.

 

[wquiles]

If you get a Mac, you'll never look back....... and the prices have started to come closer to windows.

I feel your pain, as I am the same way. Once I got started using a Mac at work back in 2014-15, there is no going back


As to running quickload, I first tried using Parallels. And it works well - that is what I used for the last many years since I bought quickload. But it is a heavy load on the Mac in terms of processing, memory, and storage. I also have a media server (Plex) where I stream movies to the TV's in my house, and for that media server I went with a Windows 10 PC since it simply works fantastic for a media server, PLUS, it allows me to install and run quickload on that Windows PC, so it runs natively. This media server is a head-less system, meaning no monitor, no keypad, no mouse, and I simply use a remote desktop program "iTeleport", to access it when I needed. So when I need to run quickload, I open iTeleport, and I am greeted with a Windows 10 remote session running in a window in my Mac. Works for me

 

[Rockydoc]

So....just get the cheapest windows PC I can find and go with it? How do you get one without mouse, keyboard, monitor etc.?

I have an HP laptop running QuickLOAD on Windows 7 now, but I don't like(I am not skilled at) running Windows. If I did what you did I would still have to know how to run Windows, I would only now be running it on my Mac desktop?
This Windows device you are talking about comes with Windows 10 built in?
Thanks for your response, and thanking you in advance for your patience with me.

 

[wquiles]

So....just get the cheapest windows PC I can find and go with it? How do you get one without mouse, keyboard, monitor etc.?

That right there is probably the best/simplest. Wait for a good special (Slickdeals.net is my prefered site), and buy a cheap Win10 laptop with a screen to suit your needs. To be honest, I would first keep using your HP Laptop running on Win7 until it dies before I buy a new one, just try to backup your data from time to time.

If I did what you did I would still have to know how to run Windows, I would only now be running it on my Mac desktop?
This Windows device you are talking about comes with Windows 10 built in?
Thanks for your response, and thanking you in advance for your patience with me.

If you want to connect remotely (as when using your main Mac computer) to the Windows7/10 computer remotely, it takes quite a bit of work. I never meant to imply it is trivial. Besides dealing with the remote credentials, and having the IP address in your LAN for the Windows machine, you need to turn/enable remote desktop on that Windows machine:
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/turn-on-remote-desktop-in-windows-vista/

When connecting to a Windows PC remotely, you are using the remote desktop capability, therefore you are not using the keyboard/mouse/display from the Windows PC, but rather, you are using the keyboard/mouse/display in your Mac, and the software (in my case iTeleport), creates a local window in your Mac, which should you "exactly" your Windows-based computer, and also maps/translates your keyboard/mouse to the remote system:


I like/use iTeleport, but the Mac store has the standard app as well:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id1295203466?mt=12

Just Google "how to remote access a Win10 computer from your Mac", and you should find "lots" of guides on how to make it work:

Will

 

[popper]

https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#hostcpurequirements

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Usually a killer for older laptops as they have slow processors and little ram. Using on a 'big' mac shouldn't be a problem. Might load it on my linux machine to see how good it is now. Oracle stuff is quite good.

 

[hporter]

Popper,

I think you will like virtual box if you give it a try. I have run it for years, mostly on older macs.

I started out with Parallels and VMware Fusion. They worked well, but it seems silly to keep paying for software that was available for free that worked just as well.

I need to try linux one day. I know the underpinnings of the Mac OS are linux, but I am not familiar enough with Unix to remember command line operators. I still type in DOS when at the terminal, with predictable bad results. It is funny how even after 30 or so years the DOS commands still come to memory.