Savage 12FV 223 range results (Jacketed bullets)

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Ready for sage rats! I'm very happy with my early results with this rifle. I threw a Boyd's laminate stock on it, an inexpensive bipod, a cheap Cabela's brand scope, and I'm all in for around $825 with mounts, rings and everything.

Beautiful day today here in western Oregon. Sunny, 60 degrees, light breeze. We were shooting at 100 yards from the prone position using the bipod up front and a bag under the butt of the stock.

These loads show potential. These loads were assembled as followed.

Mix .223/.556 brass found out in the woods.
Cleaned and polished then annealed.
Full length sized then trimmed.
WW small rifle primers is what I used.
55gr Nosler Varmageddon was the bullet.
25gr H335 and 25gr Varget were the powders used.
The speeds were a little slow but accurate. The H335 load averaged 3086 and the Varget was 3020

So this is random mixed brass that was FL sized, freshly annealed, and the bullets were seated to factory specs. My thought are with same lot/weight/head stamp brass that has been neck sized only and seated out to .005/.010" off the lands I might be able to shrink the groups up a bit. If not, so be it. I'm Very happy with my new inexpensive Savage. Here are some pics......
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Nice shooting. Sage rats will learn to fear you.
Savage makes some pretty accurate rifles.
 

Intheshop

Banned
The interweeb,Savage "appreciation" ...timeline is arguably linked.Meaning,the Savage system has been around a looooong time.I sort of hated to see the attention they got/get.We used to get 110's for 100$...all day long.And knew fully well what floating boltheads and adj headspace was.

It was an interesting time(pre internet) Savagely speaking.Most,pretty much all,rifle loonys would NOT ba shooting 110's.Just couldn't bring themselves to the ugliness.I saw it as bttm feeder uber accuracy,and the irony first.Then tried to understand the engineering behind it....got it.Then started scoffing up 110's.

But fine job Waco.Nice rig and good shooting.

I'm working on a stainless LA,7-08,CB rig....stock decisions right now.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Those are some really impressive groups.

I have a close cousin of your rifle in .22-250, similar stock, no movable cheekpiece, heavy fluted SS bbl and it is a real shooting machine, too.
Savage makes some really good rifles.

Bill
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
just shows that a good barrel and a good bullet trumps a bunch of case prep baloney every single time.
I don't go much past trimming cases, cutting primer pockets/flash holes, and sorting brass into boxes with the same head stamp.
the good rifles still shoot good and the mediocre rifles still shoot mediocre.
 

Intheshop

Banned
Waco,probably make it myself.2 pce Walnut lam.....maybe a black composite up the center.Keep it plain'ish,cut on the old 110 pattern with the Weatherby style comb.Put some figure in the buttstock.Got the stainless Shaw brrl awhile ago,haven't even shot it.
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Lamar. I was surprised at how well it shot because of the brass. Commercial and military mixed, FL not neck sized ect...
Who knows. Maybe a little more brass prep and shooting off a bench might tighten up the groups a bit.
No need for that really. This rifles main purpose is sage rats and rock chucks. This load is more than adequate.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
I'm sure just sorting by case brand will take most of the stringing out of the groups.

ground squirrels and rock chucks won't be coming over complaining about you merely winging them.
 

Intheshop

Banned
Waco,count the lams on your stock...see where the center line is.They are a road map during construction.Same with the mould,parting line on composite stocks.

So,with a 3 lam,you think and calculate exactly how thick to make the "plastic" center lam.It creates pillars and uber badarse,threaded points for sling/bipods,adj combs,recoil pad/systems,etc.

Besides the obvious advantages from the engineering of keeping two figured slabs of crotchy Walnut straight.Do a search sometime for a Browning bolt rifle...it's been a few years but,they had model that had birds eye Maple separated by a strip of red? plastic adjoining a composite section.

Skip the first impression,aesthetics.Think engineering.One of these days I'm gonna get drunk(kids,Don't drink,it makes you stupid)...haha,and take a POS Tupperware OEM stock and do the Browning thing.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
Laminating also allows you to run the grain in different directions for better stability.

heck man why chop up a cheap plastic stock?
just go straight to some billeted aluminum for the center section and make up the bolt passage ways and everything all from one piece.
one single center rib except for the top half of the stock just edge the wood over the top and butt them together.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
I am amazed that you are getting that with mixed brass. Time to get a batch of
matched lot brass, it would seem.

Calm today, tested some loads in my Savage 112 .22-250, brown lam stock. Those are 1" squares, 200 yds. I was getting groups similar to yours at
100, so moved back to 200. Not all loads which looked good at 100 survived the longer range test, which surprised me.

As I said - Savage makes some accurate rifles. It is not a fluke, I have seen others that
will do similar deeds. Very satisfying to own one, isn't it. :D:D

Picked mine up used, off rack in LGS for a price low enough to surprise me into buying
it right away. Glad I did.

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fiver

Well-Known Member
I like the 112 rifles.
I picked up a new unfired one in 220 swift a while back and it is very accurate.
I debated not shooting it for about the length of the drive home.
 
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freebullet

Guest
That is some good shooting, Waco.

Play with the col on the varget load & I'll bet it will close up really tight. I use that in uniformed but, mixed brass with any 55gr & it's fantastic out of the savage & the ar's.

On the h335 try some varmagedon 40gr hollow point flat base @ 23.5-24.5gr. It's obscene. At 100 it can clear the fly target if you do your part.