Wow . . . What could they be thinking?

Rick

Rick

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Article in today's paper: Two teens, 14 and 15, died in Oklahoma Sunday night, during the storms power was out and the two teens were using a portable gas generator INSIDE a travel trailer. Article didn't say where the parents were or if they were the only ones in the trailer.
 
462

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
A local young couple were on a camping trip, and brought their charcoal grill into the tent when the weather suddenly turned cold.
 
L Ross

L Ross

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How tragic and sad for their families, and so preventable.
My wife and I just helped instruct a survival class for 6th graders last Friday, and I am reminded of a quote from "Run With the Horsemen".
"He's a good boy, he takes instruction well, I just can't think of enough things to tell him not to do."
 
JWFilips

JWFilips

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Common sense can't be thought....It has to develop! Proper education makes young peoples minds pliable so as to self-educate and
let the young mind understand and explore it's possibilities! ...As a child; a book was never far from my reach.... I wasn't poisoned by Video-games
But I did watch a lot of TV in the late 50's early 60's but It was not junk. I remember when I was really young getting up with my Dad as he got ready for work.. I would turn on the TV at 6 am but I would watch Penn State broadcasts of Geology, Entomology Chemistry and Agriculture!
Even Lucy Strike cigarettes sponsored "Man In to Space" on Sundays!...Early TV for me was a learning experience and I absorbed it!
Heck Even the old Cartoons thought us about the Horrors of war ( Screw Ball Army etc) and we learned much of the classic music in Cartoon flicks!
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
JWFilips said:
Common sense can't be thought....It has to develop! Proper education makes young peoples minds pliable so as to self-educate and
let the young mind understand and explore it's possibilities! ...As a child; a book was never far from my reach.... I wasn't poisoned by Video-games
But I did watch a lot of TV in the late 50's early 60's but It was not junk. I remember when I was really young getting up with my Dad as he got ready for work.. I would turn on the TV at 6 am but I would watch Penn State broadcasts of Geology, Entomology Chemistry and Agriculture!
Even Lucy Strike cigarettes sponsored "Man In to Space" on Sundays!...Early TV for me was a learning experience and I absorbed it!
Heck Even the old Cartoons thought us about the Horrors of war ( Screw Ball Army etc) and we learned much of the classic music in Cartoon flicks!
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Yup, we had Roy Rogers, Fess Parker and Gene Autry teaching us ethics and morality, informational shows like "The Big Picture" showing us how and why things were done in the military, space race related shows outlining the advancements in technology, farm/ag related shows and of course local stations had their own lineup of public service type shows. As far as the OP issue of CO poisoning, it seems to me every issue of Field and Stream, Sports Afield and Outdoor Life back in the 60's-70's had at least one blurb about never closing all the windows in your vehicle if you got snowbound or warnings about using heaters in tents.

Saw a meme the other day from Waksupi that went something like, "Before the internet age we thought the high level of stupidity we see around us was the result of people not having access to information. Now that we've had the internet for 20 some years...nope, that wasn't the problem!"
 
Charles Graff

Charles Graff

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We have very little cold weather down here and the houses of some have no heat. Every year we have a cold snap or two and that is when bring the charcoal grills inside for heat. Every year or two an entire family offs themselves that way. The newspaper and radio tell folks not to do this, but they do it anyway.
 
CZ93X62

CZ93X62

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Unvented furnaces used to kill a lot of people in our area as well. I remember my Dad (deputy coroner) being called out to many such cases in our cooler months during my youth. Humans have a defect in their physiology, as a pathologist once explained to me on a death case I handled. Our bodies absorb carbon monoxide 200x more readily than they absorb oxygen via respiration. Most of the time, that is OK--oxygen makes up 21% of our atmosphere, carbon monoxide is a trace substance. But combustion consumes oxygen faster than humans can absorb it, and when fresh air is occluded from the environment The Law Of Diminishing Returns gets applied with a vengeance.
 
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freebullet

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Trouble is it sneaks up on you. Make you feel sleepy, tired, & eventually sick/dead. Not a smart thing they did, but we all make mistakes.

Had a malfunctioning machine years back. In a box van with back door open, side door open, exhaust runs out of the box, & a 2200+ cfm fan blowing. Anywho I was standing in there with ear protection on filling a water transfer tank while the labor was running the tool in the building. After a bit I started feeling weird, jumped out & ralphed. Then it dawned on me that I was experiencing co poisoning. Few minutes of fresh air cleared it up.

Who woulda thunk? Everything was open & I had a powerful fan running. Wasn't 2' from outside. It can happen to anyone, even with precautions. The van has a co detector now, just like at home. Several die each year from cracked furnace burners inside their home, better make sure ya have a detector in the house guys. It'll get you even if your not a dullard. It puts you to sleep, hard to recognize in time.
 
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Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I was working on a tractor one deathly cold day in my garage. It was bad enough I couldn't feel my fingers after a few minutes so I lit up the salamander heater. Hope you all know what that is, a torpedo heater? Anyway, after a while I decide to test my repair. Doors closed, salamander going in my drafty old garage and I start the tractor. I'm messing around with it for a while and suddenly I've got a killer headache and I'm very nauseous. Stagger to door to ralph and it occurs to me the garage isn't drafty enough at all! My one an only lesson with CO poisoning- thankfully.
 
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