.30-06 312299 or Saeco 315?

waco

Springfield, Oregon
I'm in the mood to load up 20 test loads in the .30-06
My once fired 1974 brass has been annealed and FL sized. All other brass prep ect...

I have two new molds that I'm sure will work well in the '06

Both are NOE molds. Any thoughts on which one to start with? Both molds are a GC design. 1800-2000fps is what I'll shoot for. Cast and the '06 is new to me. Any flavorite powders you guys have? My options are.....
2400
SR4759
4895
3031
4320
4350
4198
Varget

I'll shoot these through my Ruger Hawkeye.
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
17.5 grs. 2400 with the # 315.
Should be VERY accurate but may be shy of your velocity goal.
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Not overly concerned with the speed. Just looking for tight groups. That was just a guess on the speed.
 

quicksylver

Well-Known Member
What do I know?...every one seems to be on the same page 315...30-06 - 17-18 grs 2400, 20.5-22 grs RX7
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299 - 30-06 17 grs 2400 , 27.5 -30 grs Varget / 4895
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waco

Springfield, Oregon
I took your guys advice and will try 17.5gr 2400
Bullets are sized to .311" and the bottom two grooves are lubed with Glens black moly with a light overcoat of BLL.
 

Ian

Notorious member
The 299 (or Lee 312-185), ACWW, with 39.5 grains of H4350 will get you 1950 fps from a 22" barrel and shoot 1.5 MOA or less for as many shots as you want to put downrange, in any weather above freezing, if you use a lube that isn't too firm or too sticky. Killed deer with that load for years. For target shooting I still prefer Unique, somewhere between 13 and 15 grains depending on bullet weight.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
I'm more In the 18-19gr area with 2400 in the 0-6.
the primer will dictate which load I use.
pistol gets 19 rifle gets 18.
19-20grs of H-110 isn't a bad load but another 2 grs of 1680 is better.
 

Kevin Stenberg

Well-Known Member
Fiver in post 10. Am I wrong that you indicated that you use pistol primers in a rifle case?
Waco is the throat on the rifle standard for that rifle? Or has it been lengthened?
 

Ian

Notorious member
Yup. It's about manipulating what you can to get the best launch for your system. A little tuft of Dacron in the '06/2400 load can often have the same effect, albeit by a different mechanism, as altering primer brisance. Pistol primers can take the pressure of reduced cast bullet rifle loads easily, but not full-power loads.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
yep up to @ 40-K I have no problem using pistol primers.

usually they have a softer ignition signal and require more powder to reach the same velocity.
it's a win-win in some situations since I keep pressures low and I get to fill the case up further.
sometimes I have better accuracy with the hotter rifle primer.[shrug]
there are lot's of way's to skin the cat, some are good enough and some are worth exploring further.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Little tricks like this is what separates the "reloaders" from the handloaders.