Accurate " Production Revolver ", 38/357 cal.

[Outpost75]

This is the hardest part of running the forum.

Where to draw the line. Some want strict, on topic, threads with little drift. Some prefer a more laid back approach where the threads can wander all over.

Hard part is keeping both sides reasonably happy.

I will admit to being prone to some thread drift myself.

I am always open to constructive feedback on how to best handle this.

Maybe all of the off-topic ramblings could be moved and combined into a new sub-section where people who are amused by the wanderings can enjoy them and those of us who get frustrated trying to sort through the drivel can follow the original subject?

 

[RBHarter]

Well we do have a drift thread .........
While we do wander off out in the weeds completely sometimes after an OP is cleared , equally as often the wander is quite useful even if it isn't specific to the OP . Sometimes the drift is even more important than the answer to the OP .

I'm known to ask something and by the time Ive related the information needed I realize that the answer is right there . I just didn't have point A attached to way point F .....

Other times there's just some really simple observation that needs to be deconstructed for understanding .....

It's not as if we have a PC thread 6,000 posts long that has a full information recycle every 60-75 posts ...... See HyTec . That's not a jab as the information is the same but worded and approached differently . I guess it's okay that it has the information presented 60 different ways .

 

[Ian]

The 1858 , 1860 and 2nd Mod Dragoon have notches between chambers to make a hammer bump unlikely .

Well I'll be dipped, learned something new today. Thanks.

 

[Ian]

Oh, I carry them In the field with an empty chamber under the hammer.

Safe, and mathematically sound.

And you say I'M CDO....

 

[CZ93X62]

I don't trust those "Notches between chambers" stops. Old-school S/As get carried with hammer down on an empty chamber.

After 28 years of distilling facts from all manner of sourcing, I take things as they come. Disciplined discourse is something of a rarity.

 

[L Ross]

Maybe all of the off-topic ramblings could be moved and combined into a new sub-section where people who are amused by the wanderings can enjoy them and those of us who get frustrated trying to sort through the drivel can follow the original subject?

I have always enjoyed your contributions to the shooting sports and avidly read everything I see with your name attached. I recognize your scientific and engineering back ground and respect the discipline required that attends such a career.

I am the poster child for drivel. I never had a real job, most of my income came from being a peace officer for 43 years. I dealt with the irrational, unpredictable, odd, mentally challenged, angry, evil, every day ordinary and mundane. While being taught to be an instructor in Verbal Judo, The Martial Art of the Mind and Mouth by the founder, Dr. George Thompson, he said peace officers often have to do the thinking for people that they would otherwise do if they were not impaired by any number of factors. Not much hard science there, mostly the ability to think on one's feet when thrust into the unknown over and over again.

So I tend to digress. I wax poetic about a variety of topic brought to mind in an ADD, oh look a squirrel sort of random sort of way. Perhaps I should make better use of the Thread Drift thread.

Hey fiver, is there a 12 step program for thread drifters?

 

[Ian]

A little thread drift never hurt anybody, in fact it makes this place what it is, and more importantly, what it is NOT. I've had some threads where I was documenting serious work as I went get swerved all over the place but it was all interesting and fun. If I don't want interruptions, I do all the work beforehand and post it all at once, but usually I don't because working through a problem or project with all the banter happening spontaneously in real time can have a lot of value. The REALLY interesting stuff here usually pops up on page 1.5 or 2, or sometimes 7, stick around because you never know what will come up next.

 

[Rick H]

My only issue with thread drift is the difficulty finding a particular item that was being discussed. Thread titles are no help at all, and it even confuses the search function. Its not really a problem, I get to read through the wanderings of some pretty fertile minds. You know what they use for fertilizer don't you.

 

[Bret4207]

I have always enjoyed your contributions to the shooting sports and avidly read everything I see with your name attached. I recognize your scientific and engineering back ground and respect the discipline required that attends such a career.

I am the poster child for drivel. I never had a real job, most of my income came from being a peace officer for 43 years. I dealt with the irrational, unpredictable, odd, mentally challenged, angry, evil, every day ordinary and mundane. While being taught to be an instructor in Verbal Judo, The Martial Art of the Mind and Mouth by the founder, Dr. George Thompson, he said peace officers often have to do the thinking for people that they would otherwise do if they were not impaired by any number of factors. Not much hard science there, mostly the ability to think on one's feet when thrust into the unknown over and over again.

So I tend to digress. I wax poetic about a variety of topic brought to mind in an ADD, oh look a squirrel sort of random sort of way. Perhaps I should make better use of the Thread Drift thread.

Hey fiver, is there a 12 step program for thread drifters?

"Verbal Judo"!!! We had that program. The video they used kept coming back to the instructor saying, "Sir! Is there anything I can say that will convince you to comply with my lawful orders?" And then he'd go to physical contact. Honestly, if you didn't learn how to talk someone into handcuffs in the first 3 months on the job, then likely you were going to be real good at wrasslin'!

Uh-oh! More thread drift!!!

 

[Bret4207]

A little thread drift never hurt anybody, in fact it makes this place what it is, and more importantly, what it is NOT. I've had some threads where I was documenting serious work as I went get swerved all over the place but it was all interesting and fun. If I don't want interruptions, I do all the work beforehand and post it all at once, but usually I don't because working through a problem or project with all the banter happening spontaneously in real time can have a lot of value. The REALLY interesting stuff here usually pops up on page 1.5 or 2, or sometimes 7, stick around because you never know what will come up next.

Bingo. Do you want to read nothing but rigid technical dissertations or do you want to swap stories with your bud's on how you figured out how get a bullet everyone said wouldn't work to shoot great in a gun it was never designed for? Do you want dry, humorless threads that read like an instruction manual for a car radio or do you prefer people laughing at their own mistakes and fumbles before they get to some success? Half, (or more), of the fun in this game is the road you take getting to the win. There are a lot of ways to get there, some take you way off course, simple as that.

 

[Petrol & Powder]

I can drift a thread like a 17-year-old can drift a stolen Honda.
In some ways I think it helps to keep the discussion going. A point comes up, get addressed by several participants of the thread, gets resolved/clarified/discussed/dismissed or whatever and we usually get back on track. I have learned a lot during some of those sessions and I can rejoin the original topic without difficulty.
Sort of like taking the off-ramp on an interstate and immediately taking the on-ramp at the same interchange.

 

[Glaciers]

Well you got to admit this thread has “drifted” from accurate production revolvers in 38/357 to Darwin awards and natural selection, now into the subject of thread drift. That is quite a bit of drift. More then normal and maybe greater duration from the original posting.
I admit I certainly contribute to drift from time to time, but at times I will steer back on course of the original posting.

Outpost I will add to LRoss’s comment that I have been a follower of your writings as well. I just received the CD’s from David at CBA of all the past Fouling Shots for all the great articles, in particular your writings and Frank Marshall’s are a favorite of mine. Would have preferred paper copies but at $5 each, well I’ll settle for electronic.

 

[Bret4207]

More thread drift. The idea of taking all Frank Marshalls articles from FS and compling them was an idea I put forth in the brief time I used that forum. I loved Franks writing style.

 

[Missionary]

I agree Bret ! Some fellers have a right way to communicate with thinking people.
Although I will still write please leave those old Dan Wesson revolvers for sale alone. You really do not believe they are accurate.

 

[RBHarter]

Heck I don't need any help to wander off track I can wander in my own thread post .

 

[Bret4207]

Heck I don't need any help to wander off track I can wander in my own thread post .

Don't knock yourself man! It's a gift!