Action bedding

Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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Well I think i am going to order a new 223 barrel for my axis. I think I am going to get the Criterion SS prefit. So today I pulled apart my gun. It has a factory heavy barrel option. I had it apart a while back to have it threaded for 1/2x28. It has always shot ok. not like some of my other savages i have had but acceptable. It shot just about everything right at 1" But the best it liked was the sierra 60gr HP. but I am out of those and they seems to be never available anymore. So I would rather have a gun that is not picky.

As I had it apart I bedded the whole action to the boyds varmint stock. It is done and i am waiting till the epoxy cures. i used JB Weld original. I masked the top of the stock up to prevent it from getting all over the top of the stock. I also got out the plumbers putty and blocked off all the areas that I did not want it getting into. I coated the action and bolts in a silicone spray. I did it 3 times and let it dry off each time. Then one final spray after I had th epoxy mixed and in the stock.

So I am hoping the silicone spray works. I never used it before. If not it looks like a torch may be needed to get it out. A Q-TIP soaked in wd40 works real well for cleaning up the epoxy that squeezes out.

This should help support the 26" barrel I am going to get. Can't hurt. The axis uses a weird recoil lug. It is not attached to the action. It attaches to the stock. Then there is a notch in the action, and it sits up against the barrel nut
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

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I bedded my wifes Axis into a Boyds stovk couple years back. I have used JB but reserve it for only small calibers 223 being top Id advise it. I like Marine Tex or Steel and of coarse Brownells Acura Glass as well. Its harder and more ridged.

I have t used Silicone spray as a release. Id suggest ya give those screws a little turn couple hours in.. I really like past wax or shoe polish but case lube the spray or pump stuff has worked awesome! Even the hated Hornady "ONE STUCK" has never ever failed as a release agent.

CW
 
Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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I have used all kinds of different oils in the past. Even PAM cooking spray. It works. I am going to let it sit until tomorrow. Then maybe throw it into the deep freezer. But I know I will have to screw the barrel back in to get it out. i only used the silicone as it was what was sitting near me as I was setting this up.

I think you are right and I wll go down and screw the bolts in and out a little.
 
fiver

fiver

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i've used silicone spray for all sorts of stuff,, but not as a release agent.
we used to use plain brown paste wax as a release agent for pulling fiberglass pieces out of their molds back in the day.
as long as you had about 3*'s of draft angle you were golden.
 
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david s

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JB Weld works, as a release Hornady One shot case lude or like Tomme boy mentioned Pam cooking spray. I like the aerosols as they get into the barreled actions every nook and cranny. Grease on the screws if used. Biggest problem I've run into is tapered recoil lugs. The ones shaped more like a triangle than a rectangle with the fat side down.
 
Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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i know I have epoxy in the screw holes. It was pushed out up into the action as i screwed them in. I just went and turned the screws a 1/4 turn out then back in. No resistance what so ever. So, hopefully it releases. Going to head down around midnight and check again. I have the rest of the unused epoxy sitting next to the stock so I can check on how it is hardening up.
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

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Ian said:
Glad I'm not the only one who fusses and frets over every bedding job. At 4 hours I usually check the screws and have been known to get up in the middle of the night to crack one out and then torque it back in before the epoxy has gone fully brittle.
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Ooh man its about most stressful thing I could fo to a rifle!!

I remember a Remington 700 with relief holes to trigger adjustments cause it was purposefully glued into its stock. Dont know shy that image was emblazoned but I didnt like it!

CW
 
Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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Well that was about a disaster! The screws still felt perfect. But the epoxy stuck to the action. i had one little blob that I missed getting the excess off. Well it was stuck. And it had the oil sprayed right where it was at. So I screwed the barrel back in and gave it a whack with the rubber end of a hammer. STUCK!

So I got out a couple of long bolts and screwed them into the action. Then put a piece of wood over the bolts that i made sure they were even height. I then put a little up pressure on the barrel and smacked the wood on the bolts. it broke free! But the whole bottom was covered in the epoxy.

Man I really screwed this one up. It took about 30 minutes with acetone and rags and it cleaned right up. At least I only have to do a very light skim coat now.

The next thing is finding shoe polish. Or would my lanolin case lube work? That will not cost anything
 
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Bret4207

Bret4207

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Tom, what is the "1/2x28" threading you talked about in the first post? What's that for?
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

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I have used spray case lube many many times. Its in a few of my videos. Esp Hornady One Stuck. I do NOT LIKE it as case lube but its a dandy as a release agent!

If ya use shoe polish or Paste wax. Use a few coats as uts easy ta miss places. Where the spray case lubes seem ta get everywhere!
Sorry ya had troubles. I have only fouled up one and it broke the stock coming out!! BUT As it was a RF and laminated I was able to glue back together and no one would ever know or tell I was there. But the bedding itself.

CW
 
Hawk

Hawk

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I use Turtle Car Wax paste and JB Weld epoxy. Not the fast stuff but the regular stuff.
A couple of coats of Turtle Wax applied and polished, then a final coat of the wax just polished to take the high spots of.
Break and retorx the screws at three or four hours, to make sure they are loose.
 
Rick H

Rick H

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I use JPW two coats but am sure to use clay to avoid mechanical locks in cutouts and such. Beating an action out of a stock with a 2lb. hammer and threaded rod taught me a lesson. Once was enough.
 
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Jeff H

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Another nice thing about JPW or shoe polish is that is can fill some of the tinier voids the putty wants to roll back out of when you smooth it. Don't put the wax on before the putty either or the putty won't stick.
 
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Ben

Ben

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I've bedded many rifles.
This is the " Release agent of Choice ".
Brownells release agent.
STP, waxes, etc. will in time create problems and major headaches for you.
It isn't a matter of cost, It is a matter of " Does it work ? "

I knew a fellow that destroyed a brand new CZ rifle by using the wrong release agent. He got the stock off in 8 different pieces.

There are times that saving money ends up being very costly.

Ben
 
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