Bench Rest Techniques and Tips For Rifles

JWFilips

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Sure would like to get more input into this thread! So I'm giving it a bump to pick everybody's minds
 

yodogsandman

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Jim, I'm finding out that each rifle has it's own quirks in how it wants to shoot off the bags. Once solid rest mechanics are there and good basic shooting techniques, it's all in my consistency to do it all the same way each shot. Still have to figure out what each rifle wants.

With the 35 Whelen, I keep forgetting to reset it on the bags each shot and the recoil sets the rifle back enough for the sling swivel stud to contact the front bag. It seems to like being set on the front bag just forward of the action. Last week, recoil was lifting the forearm off the bags about a foot!
 

JWFilips

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Yes, I'm having issues with the "resetting"! I get lazy & forget to do it everytime & I'm realizing That is a big problem!
Jim
 

quicksylver

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Now that the shooting season has started again and i've had a couple if orportunities to get back to iron soght shooting, I have discovered that my seating height is as important as everything else.

It needs to be high enough so I can drop .my head down confortably.

Not all benches are made the same so I bring out door chair cushions with me, makes a hugh difference .

I am also relearning to follow through and call the shot.

That is keep my cheek on the stock until I have got the target back in the sight after the shot is fired.
 

35 shooter

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Agree with quicksylver on follow through. It's probably the the most ignored or oft forgot part of the whole process too. It's true in any other sport too.
First proper technique then follow through.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
quicksylver, When I changed to Varilux lens, I had to start carrying cushions also. What was a comfortable height, became too low. Plus POI changed with looking through different parts of the lens. Another of the bummers of getting elderly.
 

quicksylver

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Slightly off topic but here we go, the weather this week was no less than sh#/y. So I decided that after about 10 yrs of not shooting Bullseye I would try the indoor range again.

Took my Pardini and 1911 for a one hour trip down memory lane.

The Pardini has a red dot so getting back into 22 Bulks eye was fairly easy.

What really made me happy was when i shot the 1911 using my merit optic for my shooting glasses, IT WAS LIKE BEING 18 AGAIN !

Definitely have to tone my technique but boy sight picture was nooo problem.

Best money I ever spent 20 years ago.
 

KHornet

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Very good thread so far, have tried that pinching the trigger routine, didn't do anything for me, other than making it seem weird!
 

quicksylver

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K ..That "pinching" the trigger thing did not work for me either, interesting though.

JW ..I am adding a picture that shows quite a few of the items that have been discussed:

1. Returning the gun to battery. Notice how the front sling swivel is "pinched" to the stop
2. The wool allows the gun to slide on the rest, I found that without it the rest CAN move with the gun and spoil the shot.
In other words the gun sticks to the leather.
3. The rubber roofing on the bench allows the pins on the bottom of the rest to dig in.
4. After adjusting the rest remember to LOCK IT, something I forget all the time.
5. The Wool on the butt stock allows me to adjust the comb for the various sight positions, the higher the sight the more I fold it.
 

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JWFilips

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Thanks Dan, Pictures helped I have a question: what is that stepped wooden device in the second photo on the frar right?
Jim
 

quicksylver

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Jim ..

those are stepped front rests w/carpet for the black gun guys and hunters.

The club supplies one for each table.

Most guys use big bags, lead sleds or those.

You know the group, minute of door mat at 27 feet guys.
 

Tony

Active Member
If you use leather bags try a light dusting of talcum powder. If your bags have cordura ears try Sinclair bag spray. Both/either should provide enough lubrication to allow the rifle to recoil freely on the bags.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Unless I am using a stock with a 3.5 inch fore end, real benchrest design, I don't shoot free recoil. Any fore end with a hint of curve on the bottom is shot with the butt plate on the shoulder. With military stocks, the off hand on the rear bag forms a "V" with the fingers and holds the butt against the shoulder. The firing hand's three fingers and thumb gentle pull the stock to the rear. This pull back is just a little more than total trigger pull of both stages of the trigger. Total recoil stroke is less than 1/2 inch, but sights rotate to the left. After the shot, the rifle is straightened and pushed back snuggly into the front bag. FWIW, Ric
 

JWFilips

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Lots of good info here! Learning a lot!
Dan,
I think Armor-all should work I know my Caldwell bags are like upholstery.

Got a question. Should I dump the Walnut media ( I think that is what they have it filled with) and fill my front bag with lead shot?
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
I have short fat fingers and a wide palm. The firing hand thumb and three fingers have just the pad touching the stock and palm arched away. Trigger finger has just the very end of the pad, top of the finger print, as close to the middle of the trigger arch as possible. I know it sounds awkward, but when I was learning benchrest, if I gripped the pistol grip like a real pistol, it made another variable that added horizontal dispersion. HTH, Ric
 

JWFilips

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Horizontal Dispersion is starting to show it's Ugly head in my recent shooting with my new .358 Win. Ben noticed it instantly and felt is was me canting the rifle which is very possible because I got lazy re-setting the fore end after every shot. The Weatherby Vanguard fore end is fat near the barrel chamber but slims concavely forward from that point. I need to be sure to reset the fat of the fore arm into the front bag otherwise it is easy to roll it right or left
 

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Ben

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Got a question. Should I dump the Walnut media ( I think that is what they have it filled with) and fill my front bag with lead shot?

I use leather front and rear bags both filled with # 9 shot.

Ben