Couldn't figure a way to pull a bullet.

JonB

Halcyon member
Or size the case down and use wire stripper to pull bullet out?
THANKS POPPER...
I have a bunch of 45acp live ammo (with PC'd cast bullets) that I want to pull (and save components). The inertia puller just doesn't cut it with these? either the PC is clinging to the case? or too much crimp? I wish I had a extended shell holder, so I could use the reloading press/pliers, but I don't. For some reason, I never thought about sizing them down...I may have a RCBS steel FL sizer that just might be just the thing for this task...Is the rumor true, that Steel FL Sizers are typically a little smaller than Carbide FL sizers?
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I didn't think it was a dangerous technique, considering how slow I made the cut. However, after reading all the comments, I think I'll avoid it in the future and simply order an inertia bullet puller.
In the right hands, with the right mind behind them, alternative tools can be useful and effective. I don't see anything wrong with calculated resourcefulness. I too cringe when I see SOME people use certain tools for certain things, but I also marvel at the ingenuity of it - in the right hands.

I HATE inertia pullers. They're like any other tool designed to do a particularly unsavory task, like a toilet plunger. Worse, they make a lot of racket and disrupt the quiet calm of my shop and my reloading pursuits. I broke my first one, which I had to buy to tear down 50 rounds of 44 Special I loaded when I got my first Bulldog. There was a lot of feistier 44 Special data much more readily available then, and I used a significant bit of it. The offending loads had not caused that stout little dog any consternation at all, but they were actually unpleasant to shoot. By the time I'd disassembled 50 of those puppies, I had to wonder which way was worse. Whacking my wrist and assaulting my ears ('muffs in either case) with the Bulldog - or the inertial puller?

THAT was the last time I loaded that many of ANYTHING for the first go. Of course, I lived in an apartment then, and the range was a bit of a drive, plus several calendar days away, meaning I had to wait for the weekend. That made testing one or two sort of a pain in the butt. We all end up balancing which pain we'd prefer to feel when put into a corner, and that has an affect on how resourceful we decide we can afford to be. Given the experience-level in question, I think a logical conclusion, following reasonable logic ensued. Given the level of experience.

Like I said, I broke my first inertia puller. When it shattered, I swore off them. Eventually, I had a small deposit of questionable cartridges leering at me every time I used my bench. I begrudgingly bought a new one, and in the past thirty years, have HAD to use it a small number of times. It's looking haggard though, even as I use it very infrequently. Sitting on the top shelf and not in use, it is a silent and painless threat of the dreaded racket and pain it can inflict and makes me very apprehensive and very careful, yet there are those times, just as for anyone else. When I DO use it, I beat that sucker like it did something to one of my kids. It's sad, really. It's saved my butt a number of times, yet I treat it so savagely. I do respect that tool, that insidious implement, but it probably wouldn't know it by how I treat it when we have to interact physically.
 
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JonB

Halcyon member
I HATE inertia pullers. They're like any other tool designed to do a particularly unsavory task, like a toilet plunger. Worse, they make a lot of racket and disrupt the quiet calm of my shop and my reloading pursuits. I broke my first one,
Helpful hint:
I hit the inertia puller on a 2 lb rawhide mallet which is suspended in air...almost no noise...because I hate noise also.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
I wish I had a extended shell holder, so I could use the reloading press/pliers, but I don't.
Jon, this is my solution for cartridges, like .38 Special and .45 ACP, that are too short to pull bullets using pliers and the top of the press.
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JonB

Halcyon member
Jon, this is my solution for cartridges, like .38 Special and .45 ACP, that are too short to pull bullets using pliers and the top of the press.
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THANKS!!!
I was hoping others would pipe in with solutions.
that is such a simple solution...you don't know how long I sat in front of my press bench, trying to think of another solution, other than my extended shell holder idea, but nothing else popped into my head.

I have a couple hundred rounds of these unchamberable 45acp, and doing it on a press is how I really wanted to do this.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
Helpful hint:
I hit the inertia puller on a 2 lb rawhide mallet which is suspended in air...almost no noise...because I hate noise also.
I actually started doing something very similar - using my beech chisel mallet, instead of rawhide.

You are right - it is VERY much better, quieter and more efficient, but I do still hate using the thing.

Thanks.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Use a 1# plastic dead blow mallet and hit them together. This is how I break down loads after the kids are in bed.
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
THANKS!!!
I was hoping others would pipe in with solutions.
that is such a simple solution...you don't know how long I sat in front of my press bench, trying to think of another solution, other than my extended shell holder idea, but nothing else popped into my head.

I have a couple hundred rounds of these unchamberable 45acp, and doing it on a press is how I really wanted to do this.
Couldn't you run them through a Lee factory crimp die, the one with the the carbide ring design for post sizing? I know lots of folks hate 'em but maybe that ammo would chamber tehn.
 

obssd1958

Well-Known Member
Just an experienced observation - if you size or taper crimp most cast bullets in an attempt to make a fat cartridge smaller, once they are ensconced in their brass case - they become extremely loose in said case. The lead sizes down, but the brass springs back.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Inertia Bullet Puller = A reloader's Eraser.
Almost fifty years, reloading................I've never owned one, either. I use either a collet puller for jacketed or side cutters for cast bullets. Collet pullers are useless for cast bullets. However, I never owned a full wadcutter bullet, either. If I did, I would use fiver's method...............very similar to pulling a bullet out of a front stuffer.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
I wish I had a extended shell holder, so I could use the reloading press/pliers, but I don't. smaller than Carbide FL sizers?
Yes, extended shell holder work., well. I have one in 38/357 Magnum. However, needed to pull an occasional 9mm cast bullet. Those short cases really need an extended shell holder. My solution is use a short piece of PVC pipe, that will slip over the press ram, underneath the die body. Grab the bullet with side cutters, resting on the top surface of the PVC pipe and have at it.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
I originally used a piece of PVC pipe, too, but that piece of wood is more stable.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I wonder if a wheel type tubing cutter wouldn't have done the same thing.

I HAVE tried that to shorten cases and you'll end up getting the most tenacious "roll-crimp" you've ever seen in your life. Sharp cutter wheel, tiny increments of adjustment, still no dice. The thin brass gives so much compared to copper tubing that it just rolls the edges right over into almost a shoulder buy the time it cuts through. On straight-wall cases, that's one thing. On tapered cases, the cutter wants to thread" the case by working its way toward the narrower end.

You could still, however, get pliers on it and wriggle the bullet and case neck off the bottom part.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Sunday, I started making a block of wood to pull bullets out of 45acp.
After I drilled a 1" hole with my largest forstner bit...and it's too small for the Ram on the big Lee press.
I tried the wood chisel, but the chunk of wood I chose (yellow poplar), wasn't going to have any of that.
So I cut a couple of PVC pieces as Winelover suggested, but haven't tried them yet.

Today, during a Roadtrip to Sam's Club, I stop by Harbor freight and see a "open box" discount on a Large 16 pc set of forstner bits. Bits go up to over 2". So I dropped the $30 (reg price was 42), seemed like a good idea.