In the hospital

Ian

Notorious member
Adding this pettiness to this situation is not needed or helping.

Been there done that, the frustration and anxiety that creates can make the situation far, far worse when you are in the worst condition to handle any more stress. I found out the hard way that many hospitals have a patient relations department and just might have someone in charge who gives a crap about your emotional well-being. Ask a nurse about it. Of course now it's Friday night, but maybe you can get in touch with your doctor who prescribes your insulin and have him/her rattle some cages. If they won't let your wife get what you need to control your bliod sugar, then maybe it's time to start threatening people. I had to get a lawyer involved while I was still chained to three IVs. DON'T LET THE SUNSABITCHES LET YOUR BASIC HEALTH GET OUT OF HAND.
 

BBerguson

Official Pennsyltuckian
Got in a bad argument with the hospital today. They will not get the right insulin I take. It is u-500 . Instead they say the will modify the dosage to he same. Has not worked at al. Sugars ate over 450 and not budging. Told them I would have my old lady bring mine up and they can give it to me. But they said no. The main nurse she's been asking the same ? As he said every hospital that has worked in has carried it.

Adding this pettiness to this situation is not needed or helping. I want to say thanks again your words are working.
Tomme, just have your wife bring what you need. It’s your health, your insulin and your life, don’t let them do what they want, you do what you NEED!

Will continue praying for your full recovery.
 
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BBerguson

Official Pennsyltuckian
Been there done that, the frustration and anxiety that creates can make the situation far, far worse when you are in the worst condition to handle any more stress. I found out the hard way that many hospitals have a patient relations department and just might have someone in charge who gives a crap about your emotional well-being. Ask a nurse about it. Of course now it's Friday night, but maybe you can get in touch with your doctor who prescribes your insulin and have him/her rattle some cages. If they won't let your wife get what you need to control your bliod sugar, then maybe it's time to start threatening people. I had to get a lawyer involved while I was still chained to three IVs. DON'T LET THE SUNSABITCHES LET YOUR BASIC HEALTH GET OUT OF HAND.
This is a great idea, do what Ian is saying sooner than later.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
A few basic facts:

1. U500 insulin is intended only for people that need to take more than 200 units a day. It is 5 times more concentrated than the standard U100 insulin. Many health care providers are unfamiliar with it and may be reluctant to use it because of its high concentration. Overdosing on insulin can kill you real quick.

2. Most people with diabetes will have their glucose levels spike when they have a viral and/or bacterial infection and will require more insulin than normal to keep their glucose levels within a reasonable range. Since sick people don't usually get much exercise that will also cause elevated glucose levels.

3. If a person's glucose level stays too high for too long it can cause ketoacidosis. The lack of enough insulin to metabolize glucose makes the body try to break down fats and protein for energy which forms ketones. This changes the pH level in the blood to be acidic, which can cause all sorts of problems.

4. People with diabetes are more likely to catch viral diseases than those who don't have diabetes, and typically take longer to recover from same.

Here's hoping Tomme can get his glucose levels down. The last few times I was in the hospital I made sure that the hospitalist knew I had diabetes and that I expected to be treated in certain ways.

Wishing you the best Tomme, hope you get well soon.
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
Keith this is my understanding of why they won't use it. No one knows anything about it. They started me on remdesivir this afternoon. I'm actually feeling better tonight. The o2 is increasing a lot on a lower amount. Now they want to see where it goes over the next few days to see what's next.

I think getting me out of the dam bed and up in a chair has made the biggest help.

We will see what tomorrow brings. The wife keeps sending pics of her and my cat. My two favorite people. That is helping me a lot. And along with everyone's prayers
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
Keith is spot on. Not just illness that will elevate glucose levels, any trauma raises it. A trauma can be anything from a minor cold to more severe illnesses. Any injury from a minor bruise to broken bones etc. is a trauma and elevates the glucose. The more severe the illness or injury the higher the glucose and more difficult to get it under control.
 

Wasalmonslayer

Well-Known Member
When my wife was dealing with massive infection because of Dr complacency at the tail end of her cancer treatments if it were not for me turning green and unraveling on them at the patient care dept Ian is talking about I would be having a lonely Holiday season this year….
You have to be your own advocate or if you are not in a place too hopefully a strong willed family member can do it for you.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Absolutely spot on, Max. We ask a lot of our caregivers to help, diagnose, and do their best to help us get well. But all too often those who accept our dependence, and our money, welsh on the deal or worse. By the same token, lavish praise upon those who show up every day and get things done. Healthcare is becoming the most thankless job a person can have these days.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
The more you know about your own condition the better advocate you can be for your care own care. Every time my doctor prescribes a med or tells me I have some type of health issue I find out as much as I can about it, ie side effects and so forth. There are a number of reliable sources online - I usually go to the John Hopkins site first, my general practitioner often gives me printouts from there to take with me after I see him.

I've found that being well informed seems to make my doctors treat me with a little more respect. I guess they get tired of having to explain the same basic simple things over and over again.
 

Wasalmonslayer

Well-Known Member
As I was ripping thru people that afternoon the big boss showed up and was informing me how things were going to happen.
I told him I am not interested in hearing it unless it would be the exact same way he would be caring for his wife in this situation.
You want to talk about a fast way to turn a DR on his heels and do an about face!
Stair at him straight to his soul and ask him if he would be offering the same care for his wife or daughter!!!!
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Been there done that, the frustration and anxiety that creates can make the situation far, far worse when you are in the worst condition to handle any more stress. I found out the hard way that many hospitals have a patient relations department and just might have someone in charge who gives a crap about your emotional well-being. Ask a nurse about it. Of course now it's Friday night, but maybe you can get in touch with your doctor who prescribes your insulin and have him/her rattle some cages. If they won't let your wife get what you need to control your bliod sugar, then maybe it's time to start threatening people. I had to get a lawyer involved while I was still chained to three IVs. DON'T LET THE SUNSABITCHES LET YOUR BASIC HEALTH GET OUT OF HAND.
Agree. Medicine is an industry with a profit motive. Marcus Welby is long gone. If the hospital won't abide by your wishes, either get to another hospital or get a lawyer. Same as the places that won't give you prescriptions your Dr prescribes, there are remedies for that.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
The more you know about your own condition the better advocate you can be for your care own care. Every time my doctor prescribes a med or tells me I have some type of health issue I find out as much as I can about it, ie side effects and so forth. There are a number of reliable sources online - I usually go to the John Hopkins site first, my general practitioner often gives me printouts from there to take with me after I see him.

I've found that being well informed seems to make my doctors treat me with a little more respect. I guess they get tired of having to explain the same basic simple things over and over again.
If you had the attitude in your business many in the healthcare field have, you would have been forced to shut down long ago. Perhaps I've just had a lot of bad experiences with the worst of the medical field, but in my opinion, good doctors are as common as good lawyers and mechanics- not a whole big bunch of them out there.