Mauser models difference

[todd]

those Oviedo's barrels sure are trash. they don't even make a tomato stake. i have a Numrich 6.5x55 Swede in the 16 Spanish Mauser. i've shot it and my groups are 2" +/- at 100 yards, but that is a minimum load, i still have do the ladder loads.

the 257 Roberts is my dream rifle, i have a sporterized 16 Spanish Mauser in 7x57 that i have to rebarrel to 257 Bob.

i paid about $70 and $90 for the two of them about 4 or 5 years ago. i wanted the actions and someday i'll have my 257 Bob.

 

[Ben]

This is my 1916 Oviedo/Numrich 30-30 sporter. It shot horribly as a 7mm and I had the 7.62x39 m98 barrel laying around and one thing led to another.
I just slugged my newest $100 1916 7mm- about halfway down to the chamber, the slug became easy to push out. The oval by a thousandth slug went .287" to .288".....
It lobs Federal 175gr factory loads about 16" apart at 40yds....
It needs a new barrel, perhaps .257 Roberts if not 7x57mm.

How does the rimmed 30/30 feed from the magazine ? ?

 

[Ian]

As much as I like the concept of Mauser rifles, especially the availability of all those surplus rifles at decent prices years ago......they all had/have a fatal flaw. The bolt handle is on the wrong side. They just are not southpaw friendly.

I would own barrels full of every kind of Mauser rifle I could have found 20-30 years ago when they were cheap if it weren't for the bolts being on the wrong side. Two Swede 96s found themselves here because they are such masterpieces of fit, finish, and accuracy, and one Chileno for my boy is all I have. Lots of left-handed 110s, single-shots, lever guns, and a Tikka T3 in the safe due to suiting the owner.

 

[Rushcreek]

Ben, it feeds very well as long as the OAL isn't shorter than factory rounds. And if you only put three rounds in the magazine. I mostly shoot the Lee C309170F in it but presently am using Hunter Specialties 193gr FN that were gifted to me. It doesn't feed the C309113F reliably.
It feeds Remington 150gr and 170gr CoreLokt and Federal 150gr perfectly but doesn't like Silvertips.
It loves Nosler 125gr BT and Speer 150gr fn.
I only had to install a screw in the rear of the magazine follower(for a cartridge stop). Without it, the rims would fall behind the follower and tie things up instantly.
Then it was a matter of opening the bolt face a bit for the rim and modifying the extractor for same. The action rails are untouched.
I run it like a Mauser - briskly- and it works well. When it does get wonky- the hinged floorplate on the 1916 is HANDY.
I headspaced it to the shoulder like a rimless cartridge when fitting the barrel.

 

[Ben]

Ben, it feeds very well as long as the OAL isn't shorter than factory rounds. And ifView attachment 29809 you only put three rounds in the magazine. I mostly shoot the Lee C309170F in it but presently am using Hunter Specialties 193gr FN that were gifted to me. It doesn't feed the C309113F reliably.
It feeds Remington 150gr and 170gr CoreLokt and Federal 150gr perfectly but doesn't like Silvertips.
It loves Nosler 125gr BT and Speer 150gr fn.
I only had to install a screw in the rear of the magazine follower(for a cartridge stop). Without it, the rims would fall behind the follower and tie things up instantly.
Then it was a matter of opening the bolt face a bit for the rim and modifying the extractor for same. The action rails are untouched.
I run it like a Mauser - briskly- and it works well. When it does get wonky- the hinged floorplate on the 1916 is HANDY.
I headspaced it to the shoulder like a rimless cartridge when fitting the barrel.

That's great ! !

 

[Bret4207]

Ben, it feeds very well as long as the OAL isn't shorter than factory rounds. And ifView attachment 29809 you only put three rounds in the magazine. I mostly shoot the Lee C309170F in it but presently am using Hunter Specialties 193gr FN that were gifted to me. It doesn't feed the C309113F reliably.
It feeds Remington 150gr and 170gr CoreLokt and Federal 150gr perfectly but doesn't like Silvertips.
It loves Nosler 125gr BT and Speer 150gr fn.
I only had to install a screw in the rear of the magazine follower(for a cartridge stop). Without it, the rims would fall behind the follower and tie things up instantly.
Then it was a matter of opening the bolt face a bit for the rim and modifying the extractor for same. The action rails are untouched.
I run it like a Mauser - briskly- and it works well. When it does get wonky- the hinged floorplate on the 1916 is HANDY.
I headspaced it to the shoulder like a rimless cartridge when fitting the barrel.

Aw man! Now you've got me thinking about a 25/35 Ackley or 219 Zipper Mauser! Or maybe a 35/30! Or a 32-40!!!! Jeeze, a 32-40 Mauser done up in a Mannlicher...... or a 38/55!!!! Aw jeeze Louise! I'm getting all excited again!!!

 

[todd]

a 35/30 sounds good to me!!!

 

[462]

My one 38-55 experience was shooting the magazine empty of an ancient but pristine Winchester 1894 rifle. Since then, the cartridge has appealed to me, and in no small part because 38-55 seems super-spiffy cool. The chances are astronomical against me ever owning such a rifle.

 

[L Ross]

My one 38-55 experience was shooting the magazine empty of an ancient but pristine Winchester 1894 rifle. Since then, the cartridge has appealed to me, and in no small part because 38-55 seems super-spiffy cool. The chances are astronomical against me ever owning such a rifle.

Why do you say that? They are certainly out there. Astronomical is pretty long odds.

 

[462]

Why do you say that? They are certainly out there. Astronomical is pretty long odds.

Priorities, sir. There are many of LIfe's frivolities that are far ahead of a 38-55 Winchester 1894. Too, in connection with last year's downsizing project, I am getting more enjoyment from my remaining firearms than I was before.

 

[Rushcreek]

A 35-30 would be neat. Like a .35 Remington but with plenty of brass available.
I've always wanted a 7.62x57mm wildcat but if I do that, it will be on a 98 action.

 

[richhodg66]

My one 38-55 experience was shooting the magazine empty of an ancient but pristine Winchester 1894 rifle. Since then, the cartridge has appealed to me, and in no small part because 38-55 seems super-spiffy cool. The chances are astronomical against me ever owning such a rifle.

I bought a Marlin lever gun someone built up into a .38-55 target rifle a few years ago. AFter casting one pot with the Lee bullet, and getting a set of RCBS Cowboy dies, a Craigslist ad netted me a few hundred rounds of brass and about 75 pounds of commercial cast bullets. Needless to say, I've been shooting that rifle a good bit the past few years.

I can say with some authority that the .38-55 is about the easiest, funnest cartridge there is for a cast bullet shooter, you should most definitely get one.

 

[todd]

i rebarreled my 30-30 to 35/30-30, mostly because of the abundant brass, plus it is neat to say 35/30...lol.

 

[Bret4207]

I bought a Marlin lever gun someone built up into a .38-55 target rifle a few years ago. AFter casting one pot with the Lee bullet, and getting a set of RCBS Cowboy dies, a Craigslist ad netted me a few hundred rounds of brass and about 75 pounds of commercial cast bullets. Needless to say, I've been shooting that rifle a good bit the past few years.

I can say with some authority that the .38-55 is about the easiest, funnest cartridge there is for a cast bullet shooter, you should most definitely get one.

Hmmmmm, I have a 94 30-30 that is just a utilitarian rifle. Making it into a 38-55 would be a neat project! I'd prefer a older Marlin, but prices on such rifles are obscene in my area at least these days.

Actually, I do have a spare 1899 Savage action........Whoops! Pulse is up, palms sweaty, vision blurry......yup, excited again!

 

[richhodg66]

Only problem with the 99 would be that the magazine rotors are pretty caliber specific. They made the "Brush Gun" variant in .375 Winchester.

My Marlin likes fat bullets, .379, .380, even .381. When I first got it, I loaded with a regual set of dies with pretty poor accuracy. Seems it was sizing cases small and the result was squeezed down under sized bullets. The switch to the RCBS Cowboy dies cut group sizes in half without changing anything else, it was that dramatic. I swear by those dies now for such things and will eventually have a set for .45-70 and .45 Colt and any others I can get them in.

A 225-250 grain plain based bullet and nine grains of 700X sure is fun and as accurate as I seem to be able to hold the iron sights at 100 yards.

 

[richhodg66]

That .30-30 small ring is really special. I love the .30-30 and small ring Mausers, might be time for me to look into making one of those.

 

[Rushcreek]

Thank you. I killed my first deer with a 30-30 so it always has a place here. I inherited Dad's seldom used 1954 Winchester m94 several years back. After making the 30-30 Mauser, I saw no personal need for a lever action in the same chambering. So off to Jes reboring to become a 38-55 it went. I love it even more now. I'm using Redding dies that are labeled "for 38'55 Winchester or Ballard."
On a side note, I discovered last night that the Mauser will feed 32-40 factory rounds (until they stop on the 30-30 chamber)- and the 1922 built 1916 7mm will feed both 30-30 and 32-40.
I didn't try 38-55, I didn't want to ruin the moment...

 

[Missionary]

We have a 94 made in 1896 that has a real BP chamber / throat. Needs .383 to "bump up" with Goex 3F to get groups better than 6" at 100.

 

[todd]

JES Reboring does wonderful work!!! i sent my post 64 winchester m94 top eject in 30-30 to him and he did a 35/30.

 

[Dimner]

JES Reboring does wonderful work!!! i sent my post 64 winchester m94 top eject in 30-30 to him and he did a 35/30.

Todd, what cast bullet are you running in that rifle? I'm trying to decide if I want to go 35/30 or 375 win.