Mold History
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S Mac
Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
I think Ben may have a Mould Museum
A working museum.
jrmartin1964
New Member
Good reading on the early years (1884-1915) to be found here:
http://www.castpics.net/subsite/HistMolds/Ideal_barlow.pdf
http://www.castpics.net/subsite/HistMolds/Ideal_barlow.pdf
Pistolero
Well-Known Member
If anyone is the keeper of the knowledge on mold designs, I think it may be Glenn himself. I have learned
a lot from his many articles over at the LA Silhouette Club site. Perhaps Ben and Glenn to
have a mold museum challenge.
So, if the 46th Lyman is what Glenn recommend - it must be a real resource.
Bill
a lot from his many articles over at the LA Silhouette Club site. Perhaps Ben and Glenn to
have a mold museum challenge.
So, if the 46th Lyman is what Glenn recommend - it must be a real resource.
Bill
Sendaro
Active Member
Will sort through my molds soon and post the ones I wish to sell.
Also will check out the Link
Just finished reading the chapter in Lyman #46 and found it very informative indeed. Wish there was more.
Has anyone had any experience with the NOE 311-230FN Black Out bullet? It looks interesting. I'd be sending it down a 1 in 10" twist barrel at about 1550.
Thank you, Sendaro
Also will check out the Link
Just finished reading the chapter in Lyman #46 and found it very informative indeed. Wish there was more.
Has anyone had any experience with the NOE 311-230FN Black Out bullet? It looks interesting. I'd be sending it down a 1 in 10" twist barrel at about 1550.
Thank you, Sendaro
Sendaro,
I realize that you're inquiring about the NOE 311-230FN Black Out bullet . I don't have that mould but I do have this Accurate mould that is similar.
I shot my 240 gr. Accurate .30 cal. plain base at 50 yards.
Rifle was a Tikka, 30-06 Springfield.
Here are the test targets. I shot ( 4 groups with 5 rounds in each group ) Range was 50 yards. ( on the 8.0 gr. load , I had to expend 2 rounds to get the rifle hitting near the bull , therefore , the 8.0 grs. of Unique load only had 3 rounds in the target.)
The bullets were sized .3115 " lubed with Ben's Red and rolled in thinned 45-45-10 and allowed to dry for 2 days.
I did a " ladder test ", shooting 8.0 Alliant Unique with the 240 gr. bullet, 8.5 grs. of the same, 9.0 of the same, and finally 9.5 grs.
As far as I'm concerned it looks like 8.0 of Alliant Unique is the clear winner in the accuracy dept.
I can see some " tipping " on the 8.5 gr. test target, possible a bit of it on the others also. The 9.5 gr. target seems to show less / if any tipping.
It is my opinion that at the velocity that I was shooting these hvy. weight .30 cal. cast bullets at out of my Tikka , 30-06 that my particular bullet is " right on the edge " of what my barrel can stabilize.
I realize that you're inquiring about the NOE 311-230FN Black Out bullet . I don't have that mould but I do have this Accurate mould that is similar.
I shot my 240 gr. Accurate .30 cal. plain base at 50 yards.
Rifle was a Tikka, 30-06 Springfield.
Here are the test targets. I shot ( 4 groups with 5 rounds in each group ) Range was 50 yards. ( on the 8.0 gr. load , I had to expend 2 rounds to get the rifle hitting near the bull , therefore , the 8.0 grs. of Unique load only had 3 rounds in the target.)
The bullets were sized .3115 " lubed with Ben's Red and rolled in thinned 45-45-10 and allowed to dry for 2 days.
I did a " ladder test ", shooting 8.0 Alliant Unique with the 240 gr. bullet, 8.5 grs. of the same, 9.0 of the same, and finally 9.5 grs.
As far as I'm concerned it looks like 8.0 of Alliant Unique is the clear winner in the accuracy dept.
I can see some " tipping " on the 8.5 gr. test target, possible a bit of it on the others also. The 9.5 gr. target seems to show less / if any tipping.
It is my opinion that at the velocity that I was shooting these hvy. weight .30 cal. cast bullets at out of my Tikka , 30-06 that my particular bullet is " right on the edge " of what my barrel can stabilize.
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I have that mould. I have only used it in my 7 twist 300 BO. I run them around 1050 and they shoot well enough.
Sendaro
Active Member
Ben,
Thank you for sharing your experience with this bullet. I assume that the twist in your Tikka is a 1 in 10". I have a 1 in 10" twist in the barrel I've thought about trying NOE 230 Black Out in. However I was intending to push the bullet at 1400 to 1550 fps. I have to agree with you that the 8 grain load of Unique shot a nice looking group. Have you thought about trying a little more velocity?
Brad, I'm of the understanding that the bullet may have been designed with it being used at sub-sonic velocity. I'm wondering how it would act if pushed to 1400 to 1550 fps for shooting at ranges of 200 yards and beyond.
Ben, And Brad Would like to hear your thoughts on this bullets use at extended ranges.
Thanks, Sendaro
Thank you for sharing your experience with this bullet. I assume that the twist in your Tikka is a 1 in 10". I have a 1 in 10" twist in the barrel I've thought about trying NOE 230 Black Out in. However I was intending to push the bullet at 1400 to 1550 fps. I have to agree with you that the 8 grain load of Unique shot a nice looking group. Have you thought about trying a little more velocity?
Brad, I'm of the understanding that the bullet may have been designed with it being used at sub-sonic velocity. I'm wondering how it would act if pushed to 1400 to 1550 fps for shooting at ranges of 200 yards and beyond.
Ben, And Brad Would like to hear your thoughts on this bullets use at extended ranges.
Thanks, Sendaro
Sendaro ,
Yes, I " assume " that my Tikka , 30-06 is a 1-10.
My bullet is a plain base , it ( in my opinion ) won't tolerate too swift of a kick in the rear end.
I doubt that any of my loads that you see above in the test targets broke 1,050 fps.
I may move things forward to around 1,400 fps and see what happens.
Good Shooting,
Ben
Yes, I " assume " that my Tikka , 30-06 is a 1-10.
My bullet is a plain base , it ( in my opinion ) won't tolerate too swift of a kick in the rear end.
I doubt that any of my loads that you see above in the test targets broke 1,050 fps.
I may move things forward to around 1,400 fps and see what happens.
Good Shooting,
Ben
Sendaro,
I bought my Accurate brass mould a few years ago on a " whim ".
I was not particularly interested in the plain base 240 gr. , 30 cal., but it was all part of the " package deal " on the mould.
I've really enjoyed shooting it younger brother, ( that you see on the left of the 240 ) the 180 gr. Plain Base.
Ben
I can keep three different caliber weapons going with only one mould, if need be.
I bought my Accurate brass mould a few years ago on a " whim ".
I was not particularly interested in the plain base 240 gr. , 30 cal., but it was all part of the " package deal " on the mould.
I've really enjoyed shooting it younger brother, ( that you see on the left of the 240 ) the 180 gr. Plain Base.
Ben
I can keep three different caliber weapons going with only one mould, if need be.
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