The Infamous Bunny Gun in 9x19mm

[CWLONGSHOT]

Along these same lines was my thinking for my 16" Chazzel 327 /410 insert. As I have a chopped 410 with rifle sites. MAN CAN IT SHOOT 98g RCBS bullets!!



Makes better sence for me as I am NOT A 9mm fan boy.

CW

 

[Tomme boy]

Dang Ed, you got some nice toys. Were the barrels stubbed into a shotgun barrel? I know a lot of guys were doing that with the H&R's when they were cheap.

I got an old Stevens single shot 410 I would like to do this to. I was thinking a 38 spec.

 

[Outpost75]

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Dang Ed, you got some nice toys. Were the barrels stubbed into a shotgun barrel? I know a lot of guys were doing that with the H&R's when they were cheap.

I got an old Stevens single shot 410 I would like to do this to. I was thinking a 38 spec.

NO - BARRELS WERE NOT STUBBED!

John Taylor fabricated complete interchangible barrel assemblies so that the utility of the original shotgun barrel is maintained as an option. He produced rifle barrels in .30-40 and .44 Magnum for my Beretta folding shotgun also, which stow folded in a 2-suiter suitcase for airline or train travel with accompanying 12-ga. shotgun barrel without shouting "I am a hunting rifle - steal me!".

The .30-40 cartridge was chosen because it's lower pressure will not "shoot loose" the lockup of the shotgun action. Yes, the firing pin was bushed. Its 26-inch barrel produces ballistics similar to a 22-inch .308, or .300 Savage, 2650 fps with 150-grain Speer Hot-Cor and 42 grains of IMR4064. or 2450 fps with the 180-grain and 44 grs. of IMR4350.

 

[Missionary]

That muti-caliber option is a good idea.
CZ was importing a "multi-barrel system" here in Peru due to the gun laws. Register one receiver and have numerous calibers.
If it would have been available when we got here I would have gone with that system.

 

[Jeff H]

I don't need oppressive gun laws to make me appreciate that concept. I'm a CZ fan too, but I don't think I've ever seen one of those - haven't been to Peru though either.

This was one of the most appealing aspects of the Contender when I decided to go that route for my own "bunny-gun," "rook-rifle," "lettuce protector." Even though the original and its replacement had been discontinued by the time I made my mind up, I knew I could get a barrel if I wanted one, either on the used market or just order one up from one of several reputable makers.

Another more recent development is the SSK50 project, which not only offers a new supply of actions, but replacement parts! That reminds me that I need to paw through my meager parts bin, make a list and order some stuff that I can't make or substitute.

Using a Contender for this application might be cheating, but it's a workable solution.

 

[Rushcreek]

My latest one uses a 20 gauge chamber length stub with a Tikka 25-06 barrel cut off, turned down and chambered for .256 Win.
The original Topper .410 barrel remains untouched, so I have a two barrel set.
The rifle barrel is in the finishing stages here.
I see the point that Outpost is making, stubbing converts THAT shotgun barrel permanently to THAT cartridge- and very light weight is hard to achieve with all that steel.
My 44-40 is built on a 12 gauge stub with a Green Mountain liner and weighs 7.5 lbs without a scope.

 

[300BLK]

This was one of the most appealing aspects of the Contender when I decided to go that route for my own "bunny-gun," "rook-rifle," "lettuce protector." Even though the original and its replacement had been discontinued by the time I made my mind up, I knew I could get a barrel if I wanted one, either on the used market or just order one up from one of several reputable makers.

Using a Contender for this application might be cheating, but it's a workable solution.

Using a Contender is NOT cheating. Its cost effective, and far more flexilble than trying to find and convert an ancient 410.

 

[Missionary]

To bad someone does not rifle 410's. Make a dandy BP / low pressure carbine.

 

[Jeff H]

Using a Contender is NOT cheating. Its cost effective, and far more flexilble than trying to find and convert an ancient 410.

Yes, valid points to be certain.

"Cheating" in the sense that I didn't conjure the creative spirits like @Outpost75 and his gunsmith did. Projects are popular, especially if you spread them out over years and forget to tally the expenses. It may sound like heresy here, but I'm tired of working on guns - I just want what I have to be complete and functional so I can shoot them. I sure enjoy others' projects though.

Agree on the flexibility aspect, they are lightweight too.

 

[Jeff H]

To bad someone does not rifle 410's. Make a dandy BP / low pressure carbine.

Well, how 'bout that Rossi Tuffy 45/410? I'm betting that's rifled and it's chamber such that it would take 410 shells.

Would that work, or am I missing the point?

Paper or plastic?

Or brass?

I've never been drawn to the 45/410 combo barrels at all, but your comment is intriguing relative to certain possibilities.

 

[Outpost75]

Least disruption to shot patterns is to use 1:38" twist shallow rifling Marlin Microgroove blank and chamber for .410. This will also enable use of .44-40 and .444 Marlin ammo. Would be strictly custom, but Numrich had Marlin 1894 .44 Microgroove barrels cheap which could be stubbed onto a .410 frame.

 

[oscarflytyer]

Least disruption to shot patterns is to use 1:38" twist shallow rifling Marlin Microgroove blank and chamber for .410. This will also enable use of .44-40 and .444 Marlin ammo. Would be strictly custom, but Numrich had Marlin 1894 .44 Microgroove barrels cheap which could be stubbed onto a .410 frame.

are you insinuating that Marlin MG rifling is a good thing?!? lmoa! sorry - couldn't help myself. I got into Marlins and cast about the same time, and read all the non-sense... MMHV - to the very good end of the spectrum. Never had a MG/cast problem. And funny to see it touted in this special use case.

 

[Outpost75]

are you insinuating that Marlin MG rifling is a good thing?!? lmoa! sorry - couldn't help myself. I got into Marlins and cast about the same time, and read all the non-sense... MMHV - to the very good end of the spectrum. Never had a MG/cast problem. And funny to see it touted in this special use case.

Marlin Microgroove shallow rifling in slow twist does not scatter shot like deeper rifling and faster twist does. Accuracy with correct lead bullet ammo is 3 inches for ten-shot groups at 100 yards with iron sights in .44-40 and .44 Magnum. My .44-40 Bunny Gun weighs 4 pounds with 19-inch barrel.

 

[oscarflytyer]

Never thought about the MG affect (or lack thereof) with shot. But makes perfect sense.

 

[Outpost75]

Never thought about the MG affect (or lack thereof) with shot. But makes perfect sense.

25 foot pattern with Marlin Microgroove .44-40