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Ian
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Actually, from what one source states, Harvey has set a new all-time continential US record for rainfall in one location, nearly 52" of rain in Cedar Bayou. That's an ALL TIME RECORD for rainfall in one place at one time. So yeah, it's kinda the storm of the entire history of Man in North America. I wouldn't say that it's being over-sensationalized.
We're officially out of gas here this morning, 200+ miles from the coast.
We're officially out of gas here this morning, 200+ miles from the coast.
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freebullet
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That sucks!
Heard they are releasing 1mil+gal from the federal reserve. They are looking for ways to expedite the process.
Hope they get it handled quick. We need 350 gal next week alone.
I'm shocked the refineries didn't have they're own levies. Private industry usually fairs better than gov. In preparedness. Guess not on that one.
Heard they are releasing 1mil+gal from the federal reserve. They are looking for ways to expedite the process.
Hope they get it handled quick. We need 350 gal next week alone.
I'm shocked the refineries didn't have they're own levies. Private industry usually fairs better than gov. In preparedness. Guess not on that one.
Ian
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Well, you have four problems. First, due to geographic concentration of refineries on the Gulf coast, and the shutdown of most of them, we have a temporary production halt. The second problem is that gasoline is formulated to last about two weeks and is produced on a "just in time" basis, so there is little reserve. Third problem is it's Labor Day weekend for the whole country, and the local populations in certain areas have increased by a good margin from displaced flood victims. The BIGGEST problem is that people as a large group get panicky and do stupid things at the drop of a hat, particularly if they failed to think their situation through as it was developing. Social media and the news makes panic spread at an astronomical rate, worse than ever in our history.
There are a lot of people who DID flee the storm and went a minimum logical distance, which is SA/Austin/D-FW. Those people need fuel too, along with the rest of us, so demand is up anyway. Couple that with panicked people all filling up an extra 10-20 gallons worth of cans each (or more), and in just a few days the at-the-pump demand may have increased 2-3 times, which is drastic. Even a 20% increase in demand with normal supply is tough. Remember what happened to .22 LR back in 2007?
The reality is there really isn't much of a fuel shortage, just temporary supply interruptions and very high local demand in some parts. Prices will go up, but there's plenty of crude to refine and the local issues will be solved in short order.
There are a lot of people who DID flee the storm and went a minimum logical distance, which is SA/Austin/D-FW. Those people need fuel too, along with the rest of us, so demand is up anyway. Couple that with panicked people all filling up an extra 10-20 gallons worth of cans each (or more), and in just a few days the at-the-pump demand may have increased 2-3 times, which is drastic. Even a 20% increase in demand with normal supply is tough. Remember what happened to .22 LR back in 2007?
The reality is there really isn't much of a fuel shortage, just temporary supply interruptions and very high local demand in some parts. Prices will go up, but there's plenty of crude to refine and the local issues will be solved in short order.
I filled the truck up the same day I heard some refineries may shut down. The very next day while in town the gas price had gone up 15 cents, the next day another 15 cents. So 30 cents in two days. Dunno what it's done in the last two days but most likely it's up some more. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over a temporary shortage, when I was working it was common for me to buy two tanks a week just getting to work. Retired I now fill up just about once every six weeks.
Ian
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RBHarter
West Central AR
I hope the demand doesn't kill us here . In a 70 road mile circle 87 was at $2.45 to 3.75 with the home town stable at 2.78 & 3.09 , 76 vs Chevron and Shell .
With any luck maybe the Kali and Utah vendors won't take unreasonable advantage of the situation ........ Like that'll happen .
With any luck maybe the Kali and Utah vendors won't take unreasonable advantage of the situation ........ Like that'll happen .
Ian
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Bret, that's storm system duration total, measured in one spot. The previous record was from a tropical storm in 1978 which flooded the area I live terribly, there's still evidence of it all over, even on my property. The peak was about 15 miles due south of my house, 42" from the time it came until the system passed about three days later. The rivers rose to quickly and with so much force that most of the bridges were washed out and there are still 8'-diameter cypress tree trunks sitting in fields half a mile from the Medina river.
Pistolero
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Gas here has jumped up about 60 cents a gallon. I read that one gasoline pipeline from the Gulf Coast to
Oklahoma was reversed, instead of feeding gasoline to Oklahoma, it is now flowing the other way.
We are thinking about driving to Colorado soon, I wonder if fuel supplies will be an issue, beyond the
price.
With all the hype that has crept into weather reporting, I take all of this with a grain of
salt. Seems like they are always coming up with a new way to exaggerate the weather.
Bill
Oklahoma was reversed, instead of feeding gasoline to Oklahoma, it is now flowing the other way.
We are thinking about driving to Colorado soon, I wonder if fuel supplies will be an issue, beyond the
price.
With all the hype that has crept into weather reporting, I take all of this with a grain of
salt. Seems like they are always coming up with a new way to exaggerate the weather.
Bill
fiver
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probably not in Colorado. [they do have their own oil/gas fields just northwest of Denver and over in the Grand Junction area]
the price is up around here but there is plenty of Labor Day traffic coming through town and The wife would have mentioned them having an issue at the gas station she works at if they were having one.
the price is up around here but there is plenty of Labor Day traffic coming through town and The wife would have mentioned them having an issue at the gas station she works at if they were having one.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I just think about more than a years worth of rain in a week. I don't know of anyplace that can really handle that kind of runoff.
With another storm coming towards FL I think Houston and the TX coast will soon be forgotten. Lack of national attention doesn't mean their lives are any less impacted.
With another storm coming towards FL I think Houston and the TX coast will soon be forgotten. Lack of national attention doesn't mean their lives are any less impacted.