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fiver

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unfortunately the big news this week was Melania wearing high heels to board AF-1.
the totals [except the monetary] and destruction are secondary.
Montana is in the middle of probably their worst fire season ever, houses, entire forest ranges, and Ranches are being completely destroyed.
what channel you seeing that on?
 

popper

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Kids are here from Houston, needed a little relief from cleaning up others homes (some of the church family did get flooded). They are near White Oak bayou but didn't have a problem. Don't know how they got gas to get out but we passed a dozen stations with none in big D. Waited in line where we found it for 1/2 hr. $285. Don't you remember the shortage in the 70's?
 

KHornet

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I expect to see it hit above $3.00 before production
and distribution allow it to level off.

Paul
 

fiver

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there is plenty of production. [the refinery's in the Houston area only put out like 16% of the total]
the US is the largest exporter of oil in the world so the raw product is available.
it's a matter of supply of the refined products.
you can truck fuel, but there are only so many trucks available and distance slows things down even more,
it's a long way from Oklahoma to Houston.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Price up to $3.099 this morning and long lines. Amazing since it comes from Billings MT refinery by pipeline to WA.
 

smokeywolf

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Little late to this party but, from what little study I've done, since 1979, Houston averages a flood every 5 years. Houston is at about 80 ft. ASL. Knowing that, why would anyone buy or build a house near the coast and/or on ground that's not at least 300 feet ASL? Granted, sometimes you're forced to live near your job.

We were doing some serious shopping for a new house back in 2001 when we knew we'd be moving my mother in with us soon. Living in earthquake country, one of our requirements was that the lot the house sat on would have to be cut ground not fill.

North-Central Arkansas has a history of tornadoes, but is not in tornado alley. We will be taking a calculated risk in moving there. Mountain Home however, unlike Houston, does not experience mass destruction every five years.
You're sometimes forced to take risks. Can't think of many places on this planet where you're not exposed to fire, flood, winds, quake or pestilence. You do your best to plan ahead and minimize or at least moderate your exposure to them.

With regard to fuel prices, this is SoCal. If fuel goes up 29 + the non-existent denomination of 9/10 of one penny per gallon, that's only about 10%. In this environment people hardly notice that.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
A lot of places seem to be disaster prone and have a "storm of the century" or "unprecedented event" every few years. Seems like most of the gulf coast and anywhere along the Miss/Mo rivers, all of southern Calif. and the length and width of tornado alley qualify. How many times have New Orleans, Miami or some town on the Mississippi been in the news because of a flood, or storm? If you look at listings of natural disasters you see the same areas hit time after time. Some places I would not choose to live. Of course, someone from Miami or San Diego probably would think I'm nuts for living someplace winter lasts 6 months and temps drop to minus 40F annually. But places where you have to erect levees and sea walls just for normal weather...seems like a bad idea to me.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Speaking of "disasters of the century" and gas shortages, looks like Florida is going to get it next.

The worst disaster that we could expect where I live, other than WWIII fallout or the aforementioned jellystone end of days scenario, would be a multi-day power outage in July or August. We've had the occasional freak twister or two, major wildfires, previous national record flash floods, 100+ consecutive 100 degree days, four months at a stretch without a drop of rain, and some bad ice storms, but none of this stuff lasts for long enough or is wide-spread enough to really be a disaster. I live here by choice, the economy has always been weak and the weather has always sucked, but there are plenty of advantages, too.
 

fiver

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ditto that.
I chose to move here, there's really no choices in jobs.
the snow fall is ridiculous, it's cold in winter, but we don't have too many 90-f day's.

but I can find something to shoot at most day's of the year, the fishing is pretty good when the shooting ain't, and people mostly mind their own business, and they leave my stuff alone.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Speaking of "disasters of the century" and gas shortages, looks like Florida is going to get it next.

The worst disaster that we could expect where I live, other than WWIII fallout or the aforementioned jellystone end of days scenario, would be a multi-day power outage in July or August. We've had the occasional freak twister or two, major wildfires, previous national record flash floods, 100+ consecutive 100 degree days, four months at a stretch without a drop of rain, and some bad ice storms, but none of this stuff lasts for long enough or is wide-spread enough to really be a disaster. I live here by choice, the economy has always been weak and the weather has always sucked, but there are plenty of advantages, too.


About like here in the St Lawrence Valley. Winter lasts forever, though not as bad as in the mountains to the south, the economy is non-existent, deer flies big enough to be seen on radar and we're ruled by an an evil overlord and his minions who think putting on a flannel shirt makes them "country" and that shifting the tax burden fromthe state to the counties is somehow saving money. But, no hurricanes, no fires, no big floods, no real tornadoes. We do get "Micro bursts" which is a tornado like wind without the circular action and it's not uncommon to wake up to 3 feet of partly cloudy, but it's home.
 

fiver

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micro bursts are upside down tornadoes.
one sucked most of the shingles off my house a couple of years back, then went across the road and picked up the neighbors little free standing garage [left his truck sitting there] and flipped it over his shed into the field behind his place about 150yds.
 

KHornet

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I grew up in western NY, working for dairy farmers. We were about 50 mi from
the falls, and when chunks of ice knocked out the turbines, we were sometimes
without power for 4-5 days. The same thing when ice storms took out all of
the power lines.

When you have 115 Holsteins to milk by hand you
sure do consider that a disaster. The farmer, his wife and son, the hired man &
kid, and me. Twice a day, 15-20 cows per, and you really needed "Bag Balm".
I left home 2 days after I graduated from High School, never wanting to see
another Holstein again, and hefted a Garand for the USMC.

Paul
 

fiver

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laughing.
I figured out I wasn't gonna be no dairy farmer when I was 11-12.
I did find where I was gonna live at some point in my life.
but I knew I was not going to be throwing hay all night, milking cows all morning, cooking milk and pumping it off, just to go back and start milking them again before bed time, so I could go throw hay at 2 am.
7 day's a week, every week, forever.... and ever, because going to hell is real comparable to being a grass raiser for a bunch of stupid cows.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I retired from a nice cushy state job and went into farming. You either like it or you don't. Had out of season kids last night, pastuerizer is broke, raining so much we can't make hay, winters supposed to be a bear this year and taxes keep going up. Yup, I'm a smart feller.
 

Ian

Notorious member
At least the odds of you getting shot and left for dead on a roadside by some meth-crazed nutbar are a lot less than they used to be. Silver lining somewhere...