Wonder why the 9 Luger is so popular!

[Intheshop]

Wonder why vinyl siding is so popular?

It's an industry "pushing" products to increase their bttm line.I'd opine that a typical 9mm loading,all things considered from a cost standpoint,has to be one of the cheapest rounds to produce?BW

 

[Bret4207]

In the past few years I have moved from 45 ACP to 9mm because I could no longer shoot the 45 as accurately as the 9. Age and physical condition have taken its toll. We have better bullets today; shot placement is more important to me than the size.

And that right there is one of the main reasons the 9mm gained popularity with LE. It doesn't bounce around as bad as a 45, much less a 40 or 10mm. You can pot 17 rounds in a Glock mag and still have the average person be able to grip the gun effectively. The average cop doesn't have large hands, and a tiny percentage are shooters to start with. Ease of training makes the 9mm/38 Spec a lot more attractive than a 40/45/357.

 

[KHornet]

Ah, the 380. Bought my little LCP strictly as a " git off me
gun." Have acceptable accuracy with the thing to about
5 yds Max. Consider that to be what it was made for
Agree with Bret on ctg. Like the little Flat
Nose lee.

Paul

 

[KHornet]

Definate words of wisdom Bret!

Paul

 

[freebullet]

Ah, the 380. Bought my little LCP strictly as a " git off me
gun." Have acceptable accuracy with the thing to about
5 yds Max. Consider that to be what it was made for
Agree with Bret on ctg. Like the little Flat
Nose lee.

Paul

Don't let anyone fool ya about the 380.


This buck took 2 shots from a p238 with Remington 90gr jhp. He dropped & died, no thanks to the deflected arrow sticking out his side. One shot expanded & passed through, the second broke a rib came apart & the lead exited, the jacket was found in the exit side hide. Made a believer out of me, my friend, & the deer.

 

[Edward R Southgate]

I don't know .

 

[USSR]

Don't let anyone fool ya about the 380.

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This buck took 2 shots from a p238 with Remington 90gr jhp. He dropped & died, no thanks to the deflected arrow sticking out his side. One shot expanded & passed through, the second broke a rib came apart & the lead exited, the jacket was found in the exit side hide. Made a believer out of me, my friend, & the deer.

I've killed deer with a .22 rimfire; that don't make it a deer round or something really good for self defense.

Don

 

[Edward R Southgate]

Don't let anyone fool ya about the 380.


View attachment 4496
This buck took 2 shots from a p238 with Remington 90gr jhp. He dropped & died, no thanks to the deflected arrow sticking out his side. One shot expanded & passed through, the second broke a rib came apart & the lead exited, the jacket was found in the exit side hide. Made a believer out of me, my friend, & the deer.

That would be illegal in Tennessee . The P238 Sig doesn't meet minimum barrel length requirements and if used during archery season that would be another ding . USSR , .22 rim fire is illegal also .

 

[USSR]

USSR , .22 rim fire is illegal also .

So, call the cops.

Don

 

[Rick]

I would think illegal in most states not to mention unethical.

 

[Ian]

For intended sporting purposes, no doubt. Sometimes, however, you may have to put an animal down and must use what you have available to you at the time.

 

[freebullet]

I've killed deer with a .22 rimfire; that don't make it a deer round or something really good for self defense.

Don

Good for you. I never claimed it did. What I did do is share my real world experience, not just talk.

 

[freebullet]

That would be illegal in Tennessee . The P238 Sig doesn't meet minimum barrel length requirements and if used during archery season that would be another ding . USSR , .22 rim fire is illegal also .

It would be here also, but not for the same reasons. Our archery season runs right through our gun seasons. The limitation is energy requirements not caliber or barrel ect.

I wasn't hunting at all. I was setting up the young man to get his first turkey with his father at a honey hole I had permission to hunt at. I've shared the whole experience here, on the old site, & 1 other sight, usually in response to-
The 380 will bounce off, just guna piss off the bad guy, & other comments that don't sound legit based on our experiences.

Everyone one is entitled to their opinion.

 

[freebullet]

For intended sporting purposes, no doubt. Sometimes, however, you may have to put an animal down and must use what you have available to you at the time.

Thank you for applying common sense to the discussion, sincerely appreciate that.

 

[freebullet]

Rick
If I came on a bit strong to your 380 comments I apologize. It caught me off guard. I have nothing, but respect & appreciation for you. You are always welcome to share your opinion and we agree 100% on this-"If everybody liked the same thing there would only be one cartridge and one firearm to shoot it." That would be boring. As with all cartridges we have lame loads & good ones.

I'm going to bow out of this conversation now.