.30 caliber Ness safety slug ?

PGPKY2014

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I am getting ready to buy anew mould & was wondering if anyone has tried it in aMarlin 30-30 ? That mould has intrigued me ,so I thought about trying it out. It also will be used in aBaikal 30-06. any help/comments will be appreciated Thanks.
 

Spindrift

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In fact, it is the only .30- cal MP design I don't own.
It will be a pain to cast HP- bullets, I expect.

The MP .311 "sledgehammer" is perhaps the most accurate bullet in my 30/30 Marlin micro-groove. It also shoots well in my .308 and .30-06.
 

fiver

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it's a giant sized hollow point mold that's supposed to break apart when it hits something.
you'll still have a little bit of the base left to penetrate or fling off into the distance.
heck it might even whistle as it goes through the air if you cut a hole in the side.
but if you gotta shoot sumthin in the back yard...
 

beagle

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George XXX on cast boolits has one of the original H&G 38s. I borrowed it and cast about 300 about 10 years back. I'd read in the old books about it and wondered if it really worked. It was originally designed for groundhog hunting in the northeast during and after WW2 when the Springfied 03 was king. Ricochets in dairy country wereas frowned on so Ness developed this bullet as a fix.
My first impression of it was was less than enthusiastic. Big old flat nosed. large HP cavity design. Said to myself, it will never shoot. Loaded up a test lot of 50 and headed to the range with my Number 1 Ruger .30/06.
Our range had a 30 foot berm behind the 100 yard frames. No grass, just bare dirt. I decided styrofoam cups in front of the 100 yard targets would set up a good ricochet situation. With my shooting partner watching, I fired 30 rounds at the cups. Minor spashes of dust from "shrapnel" when the nose walls broke up but no sizable impacts noted. Not even .30 buttons from the bullet base. They worked. At least on my test.
My next thought was' How about accuracy? Velocity chronographed at 1741 FPS. I fired 5 rounds and looked. Can't be. Around an inch. Got to be an accident. Fired two more 5 shot groups and the smalest was around 3/4". This was at 100 yards with a very accurate .30/06 Number 1.
This is a great design and accurate. From the looks of it, I don't see how but the proof was in the firing. .30/30, I don't know. Maybe feeding will be a problem but in the 06, in my case, the accuracy was there./beagle
 

PGPKY2014

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Good info, the feeding is what most concerns me the most. Maybe rethink this and go with t raditional hollow point. Closer range groundhogs & smaller varmints are what Have in mind .
 

beagle

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Stumbled on to a Lyman 311465HP mould some years back. Very good light, varmint bullet. Shoots well in my Model 94 and in my .30/06. Very little recoil and the "solids" make nice plinkers./beagle
 

beagle

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It's basically a 311440 with a huge hollow point. Little heavier than the 440.

Actually, based on .38 wadcutters ;oaded backwards in a 38 Secial, I was skeptacle of potential accuracy./beagle
 
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