32 ACP 311252, 75 gr. plain base
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CZ93X62
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#311252 has become my go-to casting for 32 ACP. I dug into my ammo cabinet and saw that just about all of my 32 ACP brass is loaded with this bullet at .980" OAL and with 2.5 grains of WW-231. These deliver about 875 FPS from the Walther PP, bullet sizing is .311" per the ID tags in the ammo boxes. I also noted......this ammo was loaded just before we left Ridgecrest, in April 2014. Tempus fugit.
JWFilips
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Ben,
You know the .32 ACP is my favorite Hand Gun caliber! I have more Old .32 ACP's then any other
If You can fish around for the Ranch Dog design 75 grain Mould. I never got one but my old friend Jerry O'Conner From Carolina Cast Bullets
Bought one for his business from Michael when I asked him about them ( He used to run all the RD moulds) Now you know Commercial cast bullets are hard ( About 18 bhn) But Jerry used to run mine with BHN 12 alloy Lubed & Sized .314" for some of my old worn pistols ( this is before I started casting) Not sure how he is doing now because a number of years ago he had a stoke but vowed he would come back! His wife told me that she was helping him out with the existing orders.
Now these little FN 75 grain bullets are the cat's meow for conceal carry ...... Somewhere on line I saw a penetration test using a Jean Jacket and ballistic gelatin... it was impressive for a little gun.
I know there was a guy on the other side of the street that did a big thread about the 32 acp RD penetration testing
Jim
You know the .32 ACP is my favorite Hand Gun caliber! I have more Old .32 ACP's then any other
If You can fish around for the Ranch Dog design 75 grain Mould. I never got one but my old friend Jerry O'Conner From Carolina Cast Bullets
Bought one for his business from Michael when I asked him about them ( He used to run all the RD moulds) Now you know Commercial cast bullets are hard ( About 18 bhn) But Jerry used to run mine with BHN 12 alloy Lubed & Sized .314" for some of my old worn pistols ( this is before I started casting) Not sure how he is doing now because a number of years ago he had a stoke but vowed he would come back! His wife told me that she was helping him out with the existing orders.
Now these little FN 75 grain bullets are the cat's meow for conceal carry ...... Somewhere on line I saw a penetration test using a Jean Jacket and ballistic gelatin... it was impressive for a little gun.
I know there was a guy on the other side of the street that did a big thread about the 32 acp RD penetration testing
Jim
CZ93X62
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A 75 grain .314" as-cast reproduction of the Lee autopistol truncated-cone design would get a GREAT following. Pair it up with a 90 grain variant for the 30 Mauser/7.62 x 25 Tok/30 Luger cadre (all 117 of us in the USA), and bullet supply problems for these calibers would be a thing of the past.
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
I will be testing this one tomorrow Accurate 31-084H. It weights 82 grains from WW+2% tin and has to be sized .3105" to fit into the Model 81.
Accurate makes over 50 styles for 32 ACP, 7,63 Mauser and 7,65 X 25. I use a 95 grain of this style that has all the added weight in the nose for the Mauser. In the Tokarov, I am still using Lyman 311419, as I need the gas check at 1750 f/s.
Accurate makes over 50 styles for 32 ACP, 7,63 Mauser and 7,65 X 25. I use a 95 grain of this style that has all the added weight in the nose for the Mauser. In the Tokarov, I am still using Lyman 311419, as I need the gas check at 1750 f/s.
CZ93X62
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Cool bullet design in the pic.
I need to get off my lazy aspirations and figure out a combo for the mid-caliber self-loaders. I have used Lyman #311419 in the 7.62 Toks, esp. the CZ-52 where things are running in the ZIP Code Ric in Yakima spoke of. For the ChiCom Type 54 Tok and 85-90 grainer of this form with plain base would suffice; the C-96 I run at 1200 or so in deference to its age.
I need to get off my lazy aspirations and figure out a combo for the mid-caliber self-loaders. I have used Lyman #311419 in the 7.62 Toks, esp. the CZ-52 where things are running in the ZIP Code Ric in Yakima spoke of. For the ChiCom Type 54 Tok and 85-90 grainer of this form with plain base would suffice; the C-96 I run at 1200 or so in deference to its age.
fiver
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the last Mold Michael designed was for the Rossi model 92 lever guns.
he basically quit when I sent him a sample of all the Lyman's I use in mine.
he gave all of his mold designs to LEE to use non gratis and they still haven't bothered.
But NOE should have most [or all] of them too and are probably cutting them from time to time.
he basically quit when I sent him a sample of all the Lyman's I use in mine.
he gave all of his mold designs to LEE to use non gratis and they still haven't bothered.
But NOE should have most [or all] of them too and are probably cutting them from time to time.
CWLONGSHOT
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Im looking for a light 70-85g 32 ACP mold.
Spied a 311252 HP on eBay for 150$!!!
Ric that Accurate O84H looks much better!! Any feeding issues?
Spied a 311252 HP on eBay for 150$!!!
Ric that Accurate O84H looks much better!! Any feeding issues?
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
It feeds in a 1903 Colt, Remington 51, Savage 1909 and Beretta 85. In the Kel-Tec it will feed with the 10 round magazine, but not the 6's.
CWLONGSHOT
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Thank you! The search begins
I had a bunch of commercial 75 gr FPs that looked like a junior 42798. No idea of the mould and I could never find more, and like an ABSOLUTE IDIOT I didn't save one to have a mould made. Fed in a CZ70, Savage 1907, PPK, PP, FN 1910, Beretta Tomcat, Colt 1903, Mauser HSc, and an Ortgies. Wasn't 100% reliable in the Seecamp.
But if you find one, please post maker and mould #.
But if you find one, please post maker and mould #.
Petrol & Powder
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Yep, it held on for a long time across the pond. The fact that the European's loaded the 7.65mm Browning Short to its full potential was probably a big factor in its acceptance. The HUGE number of pistols chambered for it probably helped as well.
The small frontal area of the projectile likely contributes to better than expected penetration, despite the low weight of the bullet.
And of course, it was invented by John Browning, and he was no dummy.
The rise of terrorism, particularly after the 1972 Munich Olympics, led to most of western Europe finally letting go of the 7.65mm as a service pistol cartridge.
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I've always shot Euro milsurp ball, so I don't have a "feel" for the ballistics of US ammo. I did try some of the various HP loads but expansion was nil, so I stuck with 50 year old milsurp or handloads. I ran out of milsurp ammo about the same time someone talked me out of my Savage and spare mags, and haven't found another .32 I like since.
The flatpoints provided a noticeable improvement in performance over milsurp ball on the target, and on game. Like the HPs, they didn't expand but penetration was better.
The flatpoints provided a noticeable improvement in performance over milsurp ball on the target, and on game. Like the HPs, they didn't expand but penetration was better.