32 H&R

[Brad]

OK guys, I just bought the revolver, a 6.5" Ruger, now I need load help.
I am looking at NOE and Lee for a mould. I have a nice 120 gr rnfp but would like something around 100 gr.
Anyone have experience with the Lee 100 gr TL mould in this cartridge? I also looked at the NOE version of the RCBS 98 gr swc. Would prefer more than 3 cav but can make it work.

Not looking for max loads. A 100 gr swc at 1000 fps would be fine.

Throats will all take a .311 pin gauge but 2 balk at the .312. Will need to shoot it some to see if that makes a significant difference.

 

[RicinYakima]

Well, the RCBS 98 grain sized .313" with 7.0 grains of A2400 got a real 1050 f/s from mine when I had it. It was the second most accurate load behind 4.0 grains of WW231 at 900 f/s. My cylinder would pass a .314" plug, except the two chambers that were .316". Bore was .301" by .308" with lots of thread choke. Good luck with yours, and hope it works out for you. Best wishes, Ric

 

[Brad]

Thanks Ric.
What kind of accuracy did you get? I will mostly be plinking but do enjoy having a chance of hitting something!

 

[Glen]

Brad, what is the groove diameter of your barrel? Most of the .32s I've slugged have gone about .312", and .311" throats could be a problem. Just for the record, I have a .3125" throater reamer, and if you send me your cylinder, I can ream the throats for you.

BTW, I just got this RCBS 32-98 HP mould back from Erik and am currently working up loads for the .32 H&R Mag (looks good at 1200 fps).

 

[Ben]

Brad,

That certainly sounds like a fine offer to me.

Ben

 

[Rick]

Absolutely a great offer.

Erik's work still impresses me today just as much as the first time I saw it. The man is a true craftsman.

Brad, take Glen up on his offer. Slug your barrel and if it is larger than any of the throats leading will be a problem. In addition uniform throats can only aid accuracy, never hurt it.
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[Brad]

PM me an address Glen, I will get the cylinder out this week. I really appreciate the offer.
Slugging the barrel can be done easily in the morning.

For a 29 year old revolver it is in amazing shape. Very faint bolt mark around cylinder. No wear on bluing that I can see. Front sight is very slightly bent to one side. Might have been to sight in? Weird thing is that the rear sight notch is centered. Front sight blade was painted on rear with yellow paint for visibility, at least the owner was interested in seeing the front sight!

This revolver may well lead me to sell my 30 carbine BH.

 

[Rick]

This revolver may well lead me to sell my 30 carbine BH.

Sacrilege!
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[Brad]

It would be weird, I have never sold a gun other than a few muzzleloaders.

I don't shoot the 30 carbine much anyway. I have a feeling this will be easier to get good results from.

 

[RicinYakima]

Brad, My 32 SS would do about 2.5 inches at 25 yards, standing two hands, with the WW231; add 1/2 inch for A2400 load. Lil" Gun loads were really fast getting 6 inch groups at 25 yards. After two years of doing all the tricks, fire lapping, new throat, honing cylinders to equal .316" and shooting one chamber I could get 2" groups from the bench with 2.5 grains of Bullseye and Lyman 311316, 20/1, gas checked. I hope your greater knowledge and experience with Ruger's lets you have a better experience. Ric

 

[Brad]

I'm hoping this one does better with far less work. I'm familiar with Ruger revolver issues having honed my 45 Colt cylinder to have .452 throats instead of .450. Taught me what leading was!
After I get the cylinder back from Glen I will try some loads with the bullet I have. That will give me a general idea of what it can do.
I do have a Lyman 311316 but it won't cast any bigger than .311+ and I prefer to avoid GC use if possible.

Really looking hard at the NOE copy of the RCBS.

 

[Glen]

That 311316 is the perfect bullet for your .30 Carbine RBH.

 

[RicinYakima]

I have two '316's; one has the gas check shank cut out to .315" and the double cavity has had one cavity HP'd by Eric. The HP from 20/1 with 9.5 grains of 2400 from the Savage 23B, 32/20, will do in coyotes around the lambing and calving sheds very well out to 100 yards.

 

[9.3X62AL]

Ric's load using the RCBS 32-98-SWC atop 4.0 grains of WW-231 gets about 80% of the firing done in my S&W Model 16-4 x 6". It has become my go-to varmint load in this caliber. 100 gariners at 900-950 FPS aren't the eardrum drills that 30 Carbine BHs tend to be when loads run past 90% of potential.

Brad--I would be loath to sell off another 30 Carbine Blackhawk. I have had 3 of them, and all were tackdrivers. My current and very recent example (early 2014 IIRC) has PERFECT internal dimensions in throats and barrel. The 30C BH gets my intrepid mid-caliber revolver work, and saves me the trouble & expense of springing for a 327 Federal wheelgun and brass to feed it with. The Lee Soup Can and Sierra 110 soft points can both be run past 1550 FPS with judicious work-ups of AA-7, WC-820, and AA-9 powders and small rifle primers like those used in 223--NOT Rem 6-1/2s, use CCI 400 or WSR. Plugs and muffs both in place, you can shoot all day as long as you avoid active fault zones--you don't want to be setting off earthquakes indiscriminately.

 

[Bret4207]

That 311316 is the perfect bullet for your .30 Carbine RBH.

The 311316 is a perfect bullet for any smaller 30/311 cal over the size of a 32S+W!

 

[Bret4207]

Start looking for 32 S+W Long brass. Shoots just as well in my Ruger as the Mag stuff, if not better, and usually is far less expensive. You can get your 1K with 100grs out of long brass most likely and it will last and last.

FWIW, my Ruger is no tack driver. Reading the comments on skinny throats has me wondering....

 

[Brad]

My barrel slugged at .3125.
I wonder if it was for sale because it didn't shoot too well. With .311 throats and a .312 barrel it would be a good candidate for leading.

 

[Rick]

Throats will all take a .311 pin gauge but 2 balk at the .312.

My barrel slugged at .3125.

I have a .3125" throater reamer, and if you send me your cylinder, I can ream the throats for you.

Hhmmmm . . . Sounds to me like Brad will be poopin in tall cotton.
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[Brad]

Shot 50 rounds today. I don't have a mould yet but have a few hundred 85 gr Hornady jacketed so I used them. Load was 5.3 gr of HS6. I had to shoot offhand at 50 and was pleased that they grouped as well as they did.
Talk about a mild mannered gun! And it has a wonderful trigger too.

I think I'm going to be shooting this one a bunch.

 

[Glen]

Glad you are happy! If your barrel is .3125", and now your throats are .3125", what I would do is send Erik Ohlen a sizer die (.310" to .312") and ask him to hone it out to .3125", and you will probably have the most accurate cast bullet handgun you will ever own.