45-70 hot rod .........
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FrankCVA42
Active Member
Definitely no fun when you start pushing 300 JHP's over factory levels. Seem to remember 1800 FPS as being the magic number. Always thought that the little stubby 22" barrel on the #1 should qualify it as a carbine rather than a rifle. Would love to be able to send it out and have a premium grade octagon barrel with Hartford ring where it meets the receiver much like the old sharps rifles were made. And longer than 22". Have a Pedersoli 1874 infantry rifle in 45/70 that should make a dandy cast bullet rifle. Have 5 molds for the 45/70,3 Lyman and 2 RCBS and only the Lyman 489 grain gas checked bullet cast at .459. The two RCBS molds the bullets stick in the mold after the sprue plate is opened and you have to hit the hinge pin with a small hammer handle to get them out. My next molds are coming from Accurate molds. Cost more?, definitely but at least I'll have proper sized bullets. Frank
waco
Springfield, Oregon
This is my go to 45-70 load. https://www.artfulbullet.com/index.php?threads/45-70-range-results.860/
RBHarter
West Central AR
I've worked a few loads for an 1895G . Several 405s , a 350 , 458-201 Rapine @ 250gr , and a 535 458132 .
I pretty much out grew getting recoil stomped with the old 1-1/4 12 ga goose loads , they were pretty hard on 120# of bones and stringy muscle . Tiptoeing around twice that with better fitted guns doesn't make it much more than bearable .
I pretty much out grew getting recoil stomped with the old 1-1/4 12 ga goose loads , they were pretty hard on 120# of bones and stringy muscle . Tiptoeing around twice that with better fitted guns doesn't make it much more than bearable .
RBHarter
West Central AR
So it's been a while .
I finally got to shoot some of the Wonder loads .
The 458-201 Rapine was the focus bullet . 100 fps per gr on Unique was nice 1200 fps shot a nice 5 shot cluster of about 2" on a non standard steel plate target . 1300 opened up a little but even at 3.5" it wasn't bad . Colts level loads really .
I loaded a couple of start loads with extracted data .
47.0 H4198
PPU brass
CCI standard lg rifle primer
Rapine WW AC .
Darrs lube more or less .
I'd like to say wow what a hammer . 3" groups are not a thing without some serious work . it didn't lead with the PB which was a surprise a little bit . It crossed the Chrony at 2030 fps .
The other test bed was a little slower on otherwise the same load except it being a 454424 NOE version @ 250 gr . 1997 to 2011 isn't even worth consideration .
End results . I have a place to start if I want a full case hard charger .
Either bullet pushed 2000 fps does nothing that a 1400 fps 405ish does and are actually out done by the subsonic 500+ gr bullets . But we all knew this going in .
I finally got to shoot some of the Wonder loads .
The 458-201 Rapine was the focus bullet . 100 fps per gr on Unique was nice 1200 fps shot a nice 5 shot cluster of about 2" on a non standard steel plate target . 1300 opened up a little but even at 3.5" it wasn't bad . Colts level loads really .
I loaded a couple of start loads with extracted data .
47.0 H4198
PPU brass
CCI standard lg rifle primer
Rapine WW AC .
Darrs lube more or less .
I'd like to say wow what a hammer . 3" groups are not a thing without some serious work . it didn't lead with the PB which was a surprise a little bit . It crossed the Chrony at 2030 fps .
The other test bed was a little slower on otherwise the same load except it being a 454424 NOE version @ 250 gr . 1997 to 2011 isn't even worth consideration .
End results . I have a place to start if I want a full case hard charger .
Either bullet pushed 2000 fps does nothing that a 1400 fps 405ish does and are actually out done by the subsonic 500+ gr bullets . But we all knew this going in .
oscarflytyer
Well-Known Member
45-70 HR: solid copper 200 gr 2600 fps!?!
Crap - just hit me good with the sledgehammer and put me out of my misery quick, pls!
My fav 45-70 (and only thing I have shot except a few free 300 RP factory, and let a lot of other people shoot most of THEM!), is a 405 Lee HB cast over 38.5 gr of 3031 for chrono'd MV of 1325 fps. Powder puff in the Marlin and espec in the RB with hvy bull bbl. Love it/shoots soft and sweet AND thumps deer well out to 85+ yds. All I need!
Crap - just hit me good with the sledgehammer and put me out of my misery quick, pls!
My fav 45-70 (and only thing I have shot except a few free 300 RP factory, and let a lot of other people shoot most of THEM!), is a 405 Lee HB cast over 38.5 gr of 3031 for chrono'd MV of 1325 fps. Powder puff in the Marlin and espec in the RB with hvy bull bbl. Love it/shoots soft and sweet AND thumps deer well out to 85+ yds. All I need!
CWLONGSHOT
Well-Known Member
Never tried light boolits in the 45/70....
But I shoot a 260 copper hp in my bushmaster at close to 2400 fps. (Dosent appear to break a sweat either.)
CW
But I shoot a 260 copper hp in my bushmaster at close to 2400 fps. (Dosent appear to break a sweat either.)
CW