A general debt of gratitude .

RBHarter

West Central AR
Some time back I was talking to some guys I had met through the old board and a sentiment much like one reflected to Ben this very morning .

Through the several forums I post to there has been an expansion of knowledge base . I had read the casting part of the Lyman 47th 3-4 times and it was just still jibberish requiring a substantial investment to get going and painful attention to minutia details . Eventually someone said something to the effect of " you can use a steel pot , big spoon , and look at Lee for a mould " ...........

I feel like I had the opportunity to see all of the books , and all of the testing come together and be accessible all in one place . That place I think sort of became the proverbial "tower of Babble" but a few escaped with enough of the retained compounded knowledge to continue to building on the foundation . Here in this we have several skilled machinists . They are willing to share and teach and sometimes they share some seemingly insignificant little brass brad and all of sudden it's stupid obvious why some little important detail was so perfect one time and not the next .
There's at least one PhD in molecular stuff that can walk you through why 2 carbon and a hydrogen make one wax a perfect base and 2 otherwise identical waxes a train wreck waiting to happen while a 4th just doesn't work .
Then there's the metalergy and why , how , that barely measurable addition of not alloyable metal makes the alloy do incredible things it can't do alone .
The guys that can make the complexity of melt , ladle , mould , sprue plate relationships make sense to a guy about ready to throw a particular mould off a cliff .
We manage to scoop it all together stir it up and pour it back out in layman's terms and we have the ability ...... resource is a better word to explain it 3 different ways to the same result so that almost anyone can grasp the concept explained .
I simply can't imagine having to read a single or 2-3 books and trying to make get where I am in terms of making bullets . The books I have read would have me stuck on 1200 fps loads and paper patched would be ..... some sort of black art .
Instead of that or with that these knowledge bases have taken me from a turkey burner and a soup spoon for WW 452-255 RNFP and 358-158 at 900 fps with a lead mine in the barrel to 2625 with a naked greased 225-55 . It also is reasonable as to why the same everything in the above 1-14 won't do that in a 1-8 .

So to those that found the bed rock and the quarry and teach others to cut stone and make bricks and lend the shoulders to stand on I say thank you .


(This may pop up other places ......)
 

Intheshop

Banned
Nicely put RB.

Wish I had the talent to explain things better.... from a procedural,technical writing standpoint. Just ain't gonna happen. Put that spraygun,welding torch,or pce of equipment in my hand and it's the "writing instrument" that other folks get to enjoy. But that's what makes the world go round..... be a mighty boring place if everyone stayed in line. H*ll, I can't even stay in the building,much less a line?
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
We all learned from someone. I owe a ton to Khornet for getting me started in this insanity. Makes me happy to be able to teach him a few things now and then.

What makes a guy like Ben so good is his ability to use words and pictures to get a point across clearly.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Fiver does too, if you are lucky and get the decoder ring in your box of Cracker Jacks
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Felix Robbins (RIP) did more to get the light to "click" for me than anyone else ever has or likely will. I don't recall exactly how he put it or what prompted the discussion but the day he divided "fit" into 2 parts and laid it out so the 2 parts came together as one in the end was a big step for me. "Fit" went from sizing and bullet shape alone to a multi-level, multi faceted approach that encompassed just about everything involved in shooting cast. The other big day for me was some time earlier than that when someone on the old Shooters or Aimoo or maybe the early boolit site finally got me past the hardcast/linotype/harder is better stage. It might have been BruceB or Chargar or even Starmetal (!!!) but whoever it was sure did me a favor. I am thankful for so many folks coming together to further our interests and share their knowledge and thoughts.
 

Kevin Stenberg

Well-Known Member
I literally put off casting my own. For about 15 years. Because of the overload of technical information i was reading in magazines.
 

Wasalmonslayer

Well-Known Member
I have learned a little from everyone and it has helped me tremendously I am still a baby horse on wobbley knees in the cast world.
I shoot a lot of pistol with good clean accuracy now and just wandering past 30-30 and 45-70 in the rifle world nothing to exotic just good quality middle of the road velocity with great groups and clean bores!
I am just now dabbling in the plain base rifle stuff my 9yr old son has taken to rifle shooting so I want to start him off real easy and not spook him with a lot of recoil.
Thanks again guys I really do appreciate all your knowledge!
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
Bret, I very much agree with you regarding Felix!
Learned something from all you mentioned, and
am still leariing.

Paul
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Paul, Felix was the only honest to God rocket scientist I'm ever likely to come into contact with. He was a nice guy and a good man, and I miss him even though I never actually met him.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
Felix had a lot of influence on me over the years too.
he used to send me random PM's with links to stuff he had found when I would mention I was looking into this or that.
I still remember the day he 'found' like 9 buckets of ww's buried out in the weeds on the back of his place a few years ago.
he was about as elated as one could get, even though he flat out said he would never live to melt them down let alone shoot them.
 

S Mac

Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
I never had any contact with Felix, read much he posted on CB. I was friends with another member of CB that lived near Felix and knew him. I'm told he was a real gentleman, and knowledgeable to boot.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Most of My CB mentors ended up here! My invitation to join this group was a Godsend! And I will always be grateful!
Granted the were a number from the other site that helped me with specific rifle shooting problems Altheating ( RIP) and Screwbolts got me shooting my worn out 243 with cast! I now have a great old Cast bullet rifle!
And I know there were a few others that helped me get brass and sent me bullets to try when I switched to Rifle cast bullet shooting! Actually too many to remember! It has all been a big learning experience for me which is great because a day not learning, is a wasted day in my book!
Jim