Advice for 35 Remington

gman

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image.jpg I cast a batch of NOE 35-200 today and have them prepped for heat treating. I used my Stoney Point tool with one of the bullets to check how far out the bullet could go before engagement. If I back off some and use this measurement I will not be able to crimp in the groove. This is a single shot CVA Scout. Wondering if neck tension will be enough if I crimp just enough to iron out any flair at the case mouth. Using M Type die. Other than my 1895 this is the only other rifle I'm attempting to shoot cast in.
 

JWFilips

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Gman,
I have excellent results in my 1960s Marlin 336 35 Rem with those casts seated with .001" neck tension No crimp ( I do not load from the tube magazine) My bullets are seated to "Auto COL" that is they reach in the throat and the closing of the lever sets the depth into the case. But I 'm firing light loads not full house loads. From my results I would not do it any other way
Jim
 

35 shooter

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You'll be fine for your single shot...that's one reason i love them so much. You could even try leaving the flare on the case mouth to help center the bullet to the bore, so long as your chamber allows it.
Then go with whichever method shoots best.
 

gman

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Sounds good. All the years of cast through handguns but never used it in rifles other than the 45-70 Marlin. Using Bens Red + BLL after heat treating.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Why heat treat, may I ask?

Crimp adds virtually nothing to neck tension. About the only thing it does is keep the bullet mechanically locked just a little longer should a force sufficient to overcome the tension be applied. Useful for bumping the burn rate of the powder a tiny bit. I generally run about .002" tension with my levergun ammo, and a medium roll crimp in the groove. With a single shot, I see no reason to crimp at all unless the powder and jump distance demonstrated a preference through experimentation. If you use a seat/crimp combo die you can adjust the die body to reduce the flare to just graze the chamber neck walls per 35 Shooter's recommendation above at the same time you seat the bullets.
 

gman

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Ian, heat treating a test batch to compare to non heat treated. My thoughts on to crimp or not was that it would be okay without in a single shot but was looking for advice since this is new territory for me. I did cast enough to check, size and lube some air cooled bullets.
 

Dan 444

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View attachment 1635 I cast a batch of NOE 35-200 today and have them prepped for heat treating. I used my Stoney Point tool with one of the bullets to check how far out the bullet could go before engagement. If I back off some and use this measurement I will not be able to crimp in the groove. This is a single shot CVA Scout. Wondering if neck tension will be enough if I crimp just enough to iron out any flair at the case mouth. Using M Type die. Other than my 1895 this is the only other rifle I'm attempting to shoot cast in.

That's a nice looking bullet! I really like my Marlin 35Rem's. Good cartridge with cast bullets for just about everything up here in the Northern Adirondack mountains. I seat bullets that just touch the lands. None of the bullets line up for crimping in the crimp groove; so, I just crimp with a Lee Factory Crimp Die.

Dan
 

JWFilips

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I really like my Marlin 35Rem's. Good cartridge with cast bullets for just about everything up here in the Northern Adirondack mountains. I seat bullets that just touch the lands. None of the bullets line up for crimping in the crimp groove; so, I just crimp with a Lee Factory Crimp Die.

+1 there.... I only shoot paper anymore ( but some of it's recycled so I have to watch my "6"; you never know what angry paper pulp is going to do! :rolleyes:)
Yes if it were going in my tube magazine of my 336 & it didn't line up with the crimp groove ( never really does unless you seat it like factory ammo... ) The lee factory crimp will be good choice.... just be judicious..... otherwise you can create a new crimp groove!:oops:
Jim

P.S. I have shot all kinds of cast in my 336 Marlin 35 Rem ...It is hard to make that baby shoot bad!