CWLONGSHOT
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The issue I see is any difference... Im sure there is a difference there must be. Just not enough to comment upon.
Alloy for expansion
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Bret4207
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I don't remember them being advertised as being hot, just that they were good expanders. I mean, I thought they were pretty much pure lead in a polymer type coating. PB too IIRC. I don't think velocity was supposed to be their selling point.
CWLONGSHOT
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I also still have some too. I bet its a simular formula to the SYNTEC that Federal sells now.
Its quite thick compared to our Powder Coat and they claim it is a different material. But I wonder...
CW
Its quite thick compared to our Powder Coat and they claim it is a different material. But I wonder...
CW
Bret4207
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I did a little looking and there were references to the Nyclads being reintroduced back around 2004-ish and then nothing. I did find info stating they were a mid-range type load, not hot at all and that they were intended for snubbies and such with expansion and no over penetration risk. I suppose it's sort of an answer to the Glaser Safety Slug type idea. They are about the only 38Spec factory ammo I have on hand, so on the days I get concerned about the mythical "handloads will put you in prison" crap (my mind works in bizarre ways I guess) I load up with those. And they live in my sole Speed Strip just 'cuz they happened to be there.
CWLONGSHOT
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I remember the talk of "penetrating vests" that was of coarse horse puky.
I remember 9mm, 38, 38+p, 357 and 44 Special. So not just revolver calibers. May have been others I just dont remember. Early boxes was blue and white and later they became premium and gold cardboard.
Yea, moderate velocitoes as they was still a cast/swaged (most likely) bullet.
I can pull & dissect if anyone feel it would benefit. Might make interesting video.
CW
I remember 9mm, 38, 38+p, 357 and 44 Special. So not just revolver calibers. May have been others I just dont remember. Early boxes was blue and white and later they became premium and gold cardboard.
Yea, moderate velocitoes as they was still a cast/swaged (most likely) bullet.
I can pull & dissect if anyone feel it would benefit. Might make interesting video.
CW
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Bret4207
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Huh! Those aren't anything like what I have, even the coating color is different. The box is also different. What general era are they from? As I mentioned early, there seems to be at least two different introductions of the "Nyclad" ammo. I'll have to see if I still have the box mine came in, maybe there's a date.
Rick H
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No date Lot: 15-B 5543 if that means anything to you. It is the old Generic Blue Federal box with white and red accents. I think these were passed on to me in the late 80's, perhaps the early 90's. I didn't purchase them and have no idea how old they were when gifted.
CWLONGSHOT
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Early, first introduced in blue/White boxes and Gold "premium" boxes before discontinued.
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CWLONGSHOT
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Thats right! I remember those as well in the solid blue S&W boxes.
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Bret4207
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AH!!! Bingo!!!! You tickled that memory! S+W box! I'll have to see if the cases are head stamped Fed or S+W.
Petrol & Powder
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The Nyclad line went through a few iterations and the loads were offered in several different forms. There was no single “Nyclad” loading.
The early Nyclad cartridges had a poor HP design but that was addressed later on. There were different bullet weights offered along with different loadings.
Here are some standard pressure, white box, 125 grain 38 Special rounds
and some +P 125 grain 38 Special rounds.
Note the cartridge on the left is the +P load and it has a smaller hollow point cavity. The cartridge on the right is one of the white box, standard pressure cartridges with the larger HP.
The early Nyclad 38 Special cartridges had a very round profile and an even smaller HP. They didn't last long before Federal changed the bullet profile.
One of the advantages to the Nyclad line was you could get a standard pressure 38 Special with a hollow point and very soft lead bullet.
And Yes, I also remember the anti-gun idiots claiming the Nyclad rounds would penetrate body armor. That was, of course, a totally false claim.
But as Winston Churchill was quoted, "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on".
The early Nyclad cartridges had a poor HP design but that was addressed later on. There were different bullet weights offered along with different loadings.
Here are some standard pressure, white box, 125 grain 38 Special rounds
and some +P 125 grain 38 Special rounds.
Note the cartridge on the left is the +P load and it has a smaller hollow point cavity. The cartridge on the right is one of the white box, standard pressure cartridges with the larger HP.
The early Nyclad 38 Special cartridges had a very round profile and an even smaller HP. They didn't last long before Federal changed the bullet profile.
One of the advantages to the Nyclad line was you could get a standard pressure 38 Special with a hollow point and very soft lead bullet.
And Yes, I also remember the anti-gun idiots claiming the Nyclad rounds would penetrate body armor. That was, of course, a totally false claim.
But as Winston Churchill was quoted, "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on".