an interesting morning

[Kevin Stenberg]

The wife and I have a gravity (corn) feeder 30 yards from the house. So we can watch the deer and turkeys feed. The turkeys are here at first light. And come an go all day long. There are 10 Long Beards that are regulars.
This morning at dawn (very first light) they were here like usual. All of a sudden a Coyote comes out of the brush about 12 yards from the turkeys. Walks slowly past the birds always watching them. Then down the hill out of sight. 30 sec. later it reappears walking the brush line back up the hill past the birds again. This time it turns and goes straight away from them back into the brush.
Another 30 sec or so it reappears from down the hill again. I can't take it any more. I get up from the comp. and go to the window to get a better view of it. He was just sitting there looking the turkeys over. My gosh there is a second coyote 5 yards behind the first one, and it to was just watching the turkeys at the feeder.
I quickly considered my chances of getting out the side door with my S G and OO buck. and that I figured was slim to none. Since the snow is crusted over and crackals every time you step.
They finally went back down the hill not to be seen again.

 

[Rick]

I wonder why the yotes didn't have turkey for breakfast??? See if they aren't back again in the morning.

 

[Hawk]

I could never have that setup.
After watching deer and turkey coming to the feeder, my wife would declare them "pets" and I would never be allowed to hunt deer or turkey again.
Every time I would bring game home, she would relate them to her "pets".

 

[Josh]

With that setup it would be like a walking buffet for me and mine! Was there no way to pop one from the kitchen window with a 22 mag?

 

[fiver]

i was thinking 300 BO to the rescue.

the 25-20 would be just right for the turkeys

 

[Josh]

I need to send off the paperwork for a form 1, it would make my 300 much more cool.

 

[Ian]

i was thinking 300 BO to the rescue.

We were on the same brain wave there.

I need to send off the paperwork for a form 1, it would make my 300 much more cool.

Yes, yes you do, and hurry, before 41F makes it more complicated on July 13th.

 

[Josh]

Ian, what is this 41F?

 

[Josh]

Well who would have thought, Googleing "41F" would get me the proper information. Yes I agree that I need to get the paperwork in before this deadline.

 

[Kevin Stenberg]

All windows are weather sealed with plastic.

 

[Ian]

Well who would have thought, Googleing "41F" would get me the proper information. Yes I agree that I need to get the paperwork in before this deadline.

If you have an NFA gun trust, or plan to go that route, then hurry. After July 13, you'll have to submit a lot more paperwork, spend money on fingerprint cards and legal ID photos for everyone on the trust each time an item is added, and notify local LE before paperwork is submitted (still fuzzy on just how that is to be done, I think it means having chief LEO signatures on a 5320.23 form for each "responsible person", but the form is supposed to be revised to remove the lingo about them vouching for you and removes the requirement that they actually do a background check since the ATF will be doing them on every "responsible person" on the trust once they receive the application).

I didn't study up on requirements for submitting applications as an individual, but 41F might actually make that easier and more accessible to people who live in states that allow individual ownership (many do not, NFA items are only legal to possess through a trust, corporation, or other recognized legal entity) because it removes the requirement for actual approval of chief LEO, though how you'd get a signature from a Sheriff, police chief, DA, etc. who doesn't want you to have an item is still beyond me. The signing of the 5320.23 seems to be mostly to be an endorsement of ID, like a notary public would do, not so much a permission slip. but even more involved, that each person's photo, fingerprints, and signature match their ID.

 

[Pistolero]

Not having a trust, it really isn't too hard. Go down to Sheriff's office with NFA papers, they take
prints on the ATF supplied cards, sign and then you leave it for the Sheriff. He sends it to you, signed,
as CLEO, in a day. Took total about 1 hour each time, including driving there and back. Our Sheriff is
very pro-gun, no probs signing off on any NFA stuff.

Bill

 

[Josh]

Not having a trust, it really isn't too hard. Go down to Sheriff's office with NFA papers, they take
prints on the ATF supplied cards, sign and then you leave it for the Sheriff. He sends it to you, signed,
as CLEO, in a day. Took total about 1 hour each time, including driving there and back. Our Sheriff is
very pro-gun, no probs signing off on any NFA stuff.

Bill

I do not plan on using a trust to do mine, just a simple one person form, I know the letter of the law and how my wife can not be in the house alone with it "unsecured" so a small file box with a cheap lock will work for the letter of the law.

I mainly want to use it for my oldest, Elli, as she loves shooting my centerfires but hates the noise. Sooooo... my wife told me to start the form 1 paperwork...

 

[fiver]

form-1 paper work to prevent hearing loss... what a bunch a baloney.

 

[Ian]

Not having a trust, it really isn't too hard. Go down to Sheriff's office with NFA papers, they take
prints on the ATF supplied cards, sign and then you leave it for the Sheriff. He sends it to you, signed,
as CLEO, in a day. Took total about 1 hour each time, including driving there and back. Our Sheriff is
very pro-gun, no probs signing off on any NFA stuff.

Bill

Must be nice. Our sheriff refuses to sign, hence the need for a trust. Now, with the CLEO sign-off requirement changed to merely informing them you're going to submit the paperwork to the ATF before doing so, and the ATF doing the background check instead of CLEO's office, the individual trust route is a little more accessible to people throughout all the counties of states where silencer ownership is permitted. The trust affords some flexibility with regards to control of the device, such as the detail Josh mentioned. A small lock box with a combo only you know, stored inside your regular firearm safe, is one of the better ways to leave it at home legally unattended or where any other person would have access to the main safe. PITA but people have been fried for it.