Anyone with experience with a mold like this ? ?

Ben

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Have any of you shot a bullet like this.
I'd like to know the pro's & con's.

Ben

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fiver

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someone went all out here.
beveled front drive band, stepped check, and a DD band.
they were looking for some serious accuracy.
without measuring I bet the cog is close to 55/45 rear to front at the very most.

if you have an accurate 30 cal rifle with a good saami like chambering cut.
and not too much neck diameter slop I'd lay money on this one shooting groups that would make many jacketed bullets look bad.
if you have a hunting rifle.
the DD band, and the front drive band should help pull everything into alignment.
run your neck tension light, seat out so the drive band engages lightly, and even a Remington should do well if you keep the velocity's up long enough to make it to paper or animal.
 

Ben

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You do realize that with all those comments you may have just sold a mould for Tom.

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9.3X62AL

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Full agreement with Lamar here. I had a pre-64 Win 70/30-06 that would likely have doted on such a design. (Nephew now owns it). Throat was a snug .311", grooves a tight .309" and lands were .301". My Lyman #311291 that corresponded to these specs closely shot quite well, but I'd bet this above design would do as well or better.
 

fiver

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it's the ring at the front.
it engraves the rifling while the nose slides into the bore section,
if you mess with the alloy a bit here and there you'll actually see marks along the nose too.
you end up basically breech seating half the boolit and plugging up the throat area with the second half.
only sizing about .001 over groove diameter is all that's necessary here.
done right there is no slop anywhere.

your not exactly matching throat tapers and such, but your matching at least 60% of the bullet to the rifle.
and you can get away with some really soft alloy.
 

JWFilips

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impressive: I would love to shoot some of those in my new Savage 340....looks like the numbers are right on for it!
You say Tom makes this?
 

Barn

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Ben how about this one? NEI 169 308 plain base!
Base 0.311
Nose taper from about 0.300 to 0.303
Nose band 0.303

Have some cast but the weather here is not safe for brass monkeys let alone for old guys.
 

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AMTom

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Walt was the first to offer this, many years ago.

Just to make your head hurt a little more, I can put the ring, any size you want, any place on the bore rider you want, on any BR design in my catalog. It's shown on that design because that one was originally ordered that way. I have added it whenever requested to many other designs.

Never shot one, though.
 

Maven

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Reminds me of a cross between Walt Melander's (NEI) design and Ed Schmitt's #311644 (Lyman, ca. 1992). The latter was a good shooter in my '06 (though a bit undersized) and even better in my K-31's, which overlooked that fault.
 

fiver

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airc Lyman or ohaus had some double ring molds waay back when.
I recall some stories of those rings being filled with lube, that gave me the idea of very gently lubing the nose on some of my bore riders when trying for best accuracy.
it mostly seemed to help with the right amount and type of lube.