Ben's Liquid Lube

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Lost Dog

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All joking aside, it is a fact that the Johnson's product is no more. Once all the clearance sales are over for all practical purposes it's history. In all honesty would it not make sense to determine a suitable substitute for it?

The apparent qualities are, and correct me if I miss something;
A liquid floor wax containing a cleansing agent suspended in a highly evaporative solvent. Thus products such as Mop-n-Glow and similar products could well plug the gap so to speak in relieving this now growing shortage.

Believe me, I am by no means a fan of LLA, and will never use it, but the qualities of Ben's concoction intrigues me. There is, this one glaring fact. The Johnson's product is no longer available. If it were, I would enjoy a crack at making some of our creative colleague's lube. Ben had discovered a highly useful and productive means of making a remarkable lube from LLA with the addition of a common household floor product. But common sense dictates that within the American market there's more out there for sale than that one product. Ben graciously pioneered this endeavor, and we thanked him for his work. Surely there are more fertile minds here that can assist in locating and securing a suitable substitute for the now dwindling key ingredient. I have studied some of the content and am looking at other similar products with the intent of matching as many as possible. Thus far I have seen some similarities, but I'm doing my research with a "smartphone" and my patience does grow short at times with it as I'm not super skilled with today's technology.
 

Ian

Notorious member
This has all been hashed through before. I think Ben even called SC Johnson and asked for the One Step recipe. If you want to try it, go out right now and hit HD and Lowes and buy a few cans while you still can. If you don't like it I'm sure you can make a handy profit on what you don't use. You can also use it for stuff like waxing gun stocks, furniture, and even (gasp!) for finishing wood floors!
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
As an old safety professional, I can tell you MSDS's USUALLY give MOST of the chemicals, but the mfg is allowed proprietary knowledge of formulas.
 

35 shooter

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Found 4 cans at a Lowes Hardware and 1 can at a Bargain type store today...that put me to ten cans in all. If i get rained out of work tommorrow i'll take another road trip to look for more.
 

yodogsandman

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Found 4 cans at a Lowes Hardware and 1 can at a Bargain type store today...that put me to ten cans in all. If i get rained out of work tommorrow i'll take another road trip to look for more.

Good that you found some more! I heard that Lowes has dropped the price to under $2. Is it true? I'll go get more if they did. I still had at least 3 or 4 more stores within 20 miles to look in. Still have the coupon for a free can to use up.
 

35 shooter

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Good that you found some more! I heard that Lowes has dropped the price to under $2. Is it true? I'll go get more if they did. I still had at least 3 or 4 more stores within 20 miles to look in. Still have the coupon for a free can to use up.
I paid $4.67 a can at Lowes and i think $5.47 for the can at the bargain store. I was glad to get it for that, but have been reading of people finding it for $2.47 a can.
 

yodogsandman

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I paid $10 each at a local hardware store for 2 cans. About 15 miles away, another hardware store wanted $15/can and they had 2 cans in stock. I let those pass and they are probably still there.
 

35 shooter

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Back when it was plentiful, I paid over $8.00 per can.
$8.00 a can was the norm at Ace hardware where i bought my first cans of it.
Even when i bought the last they had a few weeks ago they wouldn't drop the price.

I was really glad to find the reduced prices at Lowes the other day....just wish they had more.

On the other hand they had fully stocked shelves of JPW at both Lowes and Ace hardware stores at i think $5.67 or so a can at Lowes....i was very glad to see it in full stock "alive and well".
 

Ben

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Staff member
That's all we need now is JPW and Lucas Red and Tacky to go flying out the window.
My luck in the future , these two will also be added to the endangered species list.

I don't stock pile JPW and Lucas R & T like I do the John Liquid Wax. I buy these two as I need them. I hope it can continue to stay that way.
 
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35 shooter

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I think they're both good for the future as neither product stays on the shelves for very long.
Every "mom & pop's" hardware and all the wall mart stores around here carry JPW. plus all the major hardware stores have it.
On the other hand, hardly any of them used to stock JLW.

Around these parts JPW has way out sold JLW over the years, or so it seemed to me.
Auto Zone absolutely can't seem to keep enough Red n Tacky in stock, as it sells as fast as it comes in.
 

mmorris

New Member
I found a can that has a printed label stuck over the barcode/SKU on the can.
The number on the can (under the label) is identical to the one pictured in Ben's first post in this thread.
It also has the word "new" printed on the applied label.
Anybody want to hazard a guess as to the contents' formula? Meaning, is it the "original" or some inferior imposter?
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mmorris

New Member
Yes, upon examination it seems to be. Too bad I ordered only one... sold out now.

Let those of us who are "stashless" :) hold out hope for discovery of a suitable substitute in the near future.
Meanwhile, I have another exercise in frugality in trying to make my one can last. BTW, I am grateful to have it and thanks for the heads up, Ben.

Mike