Can I slip this one into the rifle section ?
- Thread starter Ben
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I'm certain there was a REAL GOOD reason for applying that name !
fiver
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that's exactly the type of gun I would want if I needed to keep the neighbors off my lawn for some reason.
you can see the FN Winchester connection in the choke there.
if it has a .729 bore you should be able to pick up extra chokes and a tube wrench pretty cheap.
I don't know if your thinking slugs or shot but choke selection can make a difference in group size with the slugs and in pattern size, even with the bigger pellets.
the buckshot I make is big like 32 sumthin big and it works extremely well with the slightly squished modified choke in my 1300.
squished and stuck I should say, it throws a slightly oval shaped pattern from when I tried to remove it about 15 years back.
but it throws both my 8 and 9 count loads into a body shaped target at 30 yards with 100% effectiveness at a click over 1300 fps.
hiding behind the fridge or the freezer won't help any either.
you can see the FN Winchester connection in the choke there.
if it has a .729 bore you should be able to pick up extra chokes and a tube wrench pretty cheap.
I don't know if your thinking slugs or shot but choke selection can make a difference in group size with the slugs and in pattern size, even with the bigger pellets.
the buckshot I make is big like 32 sumthin big and it works extremely well with the slightly squished modified choke in my 1300.
squished and stuck I should say, it throws a slightly oval shaped pattern from when I tried to remove it about 15 years back.
but it throws both my 8 and 9 count loads into a body shaped target at 30 yards with 100% effectiveness at a click over 1300 fps.
hiding behind the fridge or the freezer won't help any either.
smokeywolf
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In advanced officer survival we had to respond to a simulated bank robbery. Unlock the shotgun just before arrival, come to a stop positioned driver's side exposed to bank, lean over and push passenger front door open, shove posse box (Halliburton case) out and dive out after it. Reach back in for shotgun.
This was strategically the least preferable position in front of the bank, but if you were the 3rd or 4th unit to arrive, you had to have the training to deal with that possibility. Most important was keeping the engine block between you and the expected position of the bad guys.
Splendid looking shotgun Ben.
This was strategically the least preferable position in front of the bank, but if you were the 3rd or 4th unit to arrive, you had to have the training to deal with that possibility. Most important was keeping the engine block between you and the expected position of the bad guys.
Splendid looking shotgun Ben.
Splendid looking shotgun Ben.
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Thank you,
I looked at all the cheap Chinese 12 ga. " knock offs " and decided if my life was on the line, I'd rather gamble on FN quality than Chinese quality.
You get what you pay for.
Ben
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Thank you,
I looked at all the cheap Chinese 12 ga. " knock offs " and decided if my life was on the line, I'd rather gamble on FN quality than Chinese quality.
You get what you pay for.
Ben
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freebullet
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Darn nice shotgun, Ben.
If you can find these slugs I would highly recommend them. They've shot very well in every 12ga I've tried them in. Both rifled & smooth bores.
I bought a mess of these for half price some years ago at seasons end. They put deer down quick & work well in everything I have.
I would be very much interested in hearing the details of your exploits in casting/loading for a 12ga should you do it.
If you can find these slugs I would highly recommend them. They've shot very well in every 12ga I've tried them in. Both rifled & smooth bores.
I bought a mess of these for half price some years ago at seasons end. They put deer down quick & work well in everything I have.
I would be very much interested in hearing the details of your exploits in casting/loading for a 12ga should you do it.
There were lots of threads on loading slugs and round balls over at that other site. One that caught my attention was simply substituting 1oz balls in shotcups instead of shot. I've done this myself and will never buy factory loaded slugs again for my smoothbores. The basics are that the ball and wad combination be a neat fit in the bore; too tight and the wad won't survive and accuracy will be poor. A filler between the ball and wad will support the ball, so either a filler like corn meal or a 1/4" felt wad to cradle the ball. Coffee cup sized groups at 50 yards are possible!
Ian
Notorious member
Ok, only a week late, LOTS has been going on here. Checked the Lee loader inventory and have two identical sets of 12-gauge, both missing any sort of crimp starter but have all the scoops and other parts. Turns out I used my 16-gauge crimp starter for 12 on the few buckshot loads I make. If you decide to buy a roll-crimp tool and need one of these loader kits, let me know.
Pistolero
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I have always thought that the Lee "big airgun pellet" mold was something to try when I get
one of Brad's "round TUIT"s.
Uh-OH! That is a LYMAN slug mold which looks like the big airgun pellet.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/77...g-bullet-mold-12-gauge-681-diameter-525-grain
Here is your excuse to try it out.
Personally, I use #1 Buck, 16 .30 cal pellets in std 2 3/4 loads, and 20 .30 cal pellets in the
"2 3/4 magnum" loads and 24 - .30 cal pellets in the .3" magnum shells.
Seems much better than 9 .33 cal pellets to me, and the one large hog that I "field tested"
it on agreed. Dropping instantly at the shot. The post mortem showed two pellets
cut the spinal cord, accounting for the "light switch effect".
Never actually tried the 3" mag #1 buck, not too much into pain. 2 3/4 mag did so well on
the hog, I never worried about going for more. Mostly keep the 16 pellet loads, pattern
really well in my guns, but you should try it in yours.
Bill
one of Brad's "round TUIT"s.
Uh-OH! That is a LYMAN slug mold which looks like the big airgun pellet.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/77...g-bullet-mold-12-gauge-681-diameter-525-grain
Here is your excuse to try it out.
Personally, I use #1 Buck, 16 .30 cal pellets in std 2 3/4 loads, and 20 .30 cal pellets in the
"2 3/4 magnum" loads and 24 - .30 cal pellets in the .3" magnum shells.
Seems much better than 9 .33 cal pellets to me, and the one large hog that I "field tested"
it on agreed. Dropping instantly at the shot. The post mortem showed two pellets
cut the spinal cord, accounting for the "light switch effect".
Never actually tried the 3" mag #1 buck, not too much into pain. 2 3/4 mag did so well on
the hog, I never worried about going for more. Mostly keep the 16 pellet loads, pattern
really well in my guns, but you should try it in yours.
Bill
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Ian
Notorious member
I always liked the look of the giant Benjamin pellet, but have read over and over that the Lee one shoots better from smoothbores. I also like how the Lee slugs are designed to operate with conventional shot components (read: cheap off-brand copies of popular petaled shot wads) and a star crimp.
Pistolero
Well-Known Member
Well, anyone here actually use the Lee vs the Lyman BigPellet in smoothbore and want to report?
No experience here at all loading slugs, and darned limited loading shotgun shells - I have a
Lee cheapo multistage press thingie that I have loaded a few hundred, maybe 500 or so on
over the years. Other than pulling the handle on some sort of a shotgun loader as a 9th grader
at a friend's house (first exposure to the concept of handloading), that is my total expertise,
would easily fit in a thimble.
Bill
No experience here at all loading slugs, and darned limited loading shotgun shells - I have a
Lee cheapo multistage press thingie that I have loaded a few hundred, maybe 500 or so on
over the years. Other than pulling the handle on some sort of a shotgun loader as a 9th grader
at a friend's house (first exposure to the concept of handloading), that is my total expertise,
would easily fit in a thimble.
Bill