RBHarter
West Central AR
Ok purely a speculation project as at hand I have only ideas , a platform , a couple of barrels and no practical way of expressing in print my ideas to get them together .
The platform .
A lovely but age , neglect , and field service marked 10ga 2-9/16" unbranded but marked in the European style with proofs SxS . The butt stock is damaged but complete , I want to say it has a captured chip . The fore end is good and it's mechanics solid . It's been a long time since really looked it over and did the research but 1903-1905 stick in my mind . It has a tight lockup with a Dolls Head type barrel tang . Closed there's zero slop , like it won't close on a slip of thin last Tuesday receipt paper . The disqualification is the Damascus barrels they don't look bad inside but outside it's obviously a Damascus . The solder is tight on the rib ...... And so on . I really thought that I might load something rash for it like 1-1/4oz lead over a 3 dram charge of FFg ........then I thought sure as shooting it would come all undone just behind the forestock hanger and bend the important parts just past salvage .
It's too ugly to wall hang as art but otherwise a solid center fire platform . I doubt there's any real collector value so no pain there . If I looked long enough I'm sure there's a guy out there .
I have a pair of .451 cal 24" GM raw gunsmith blanks , a story of their own . I was trying to figure out the math for several things the "good idea fairy" brought me . Among other things I learned was why the the 760 Rem worked with only aesthetically more metal in it than the 410 870 ....... It's because there is actually more bolt face load in a 12 ga than in any of the 06' family . The math does this weird thing like the Taylor KO math where a 300 gr 45 Colts delivers a value higher than a 260 gr 454 .
Because of the thrust/breach face load math if the 12 ga is high then the 10 isn't getting any lighter . Even as a short BP round it will match everything ever loaded in a 2-3/4 12 ga .
While the 460 S&W might at it's extreme be hard on the action the barrels will be safe and I don't know really that it would hurt anything held to something like 45-70 TD levels of MV . I would think at 12# plus a 14-1500 fps MV 535 gr Postell would be pretty tame at nearly 3" OAL it shouldn't be a big deal to get that . 454 can't stress it and I get 6-7 cartridge choices .
Regulation will be an issue but I think I can engineer that out with 2 barrel bands and a wedge block arrangement on the one that also holds the front sight .
All of this proves I have too much time alone in my glass box .
Thoughts , ideas , suggestions , machine suggestions , "don't do it you'll shoot your eye out kid" .
On an unrelated note I'd also be content to trade it off for a naked action or a beater 110 Savage and do the barrel swap there .
The platform .
A lovely but age , neglect , and field service marked 10ga 2-9/16" unbranded but marked in the European style with proofs SxS . The butt stock is damaged but complete , I want to say it has a captured chip . The fore end is good and it's mechanics solid . It's been a long time since really looked it over and did the research but 1903-1905 stick in my mind . It has a tight lockup with a Dolls Head type barrel tang . Closed there's zero slop , like it won't close on a slip of thin last Tuesday receipt paper . The disqualification is the Damascus barrels they don't look bad inside but outside it's obviously a Damascus . The solder is tight on the rib ...... And so on . I really thought that I might load something rash for it like 1-1/4oz lead over a 3 dram charge of FFg ........then I thought sure as shooting it would come all undone just behind the forestock hanger and bend the important parts just past salvage .
It's too ugly to wall hang as art but otherwise a solid center fire platform . I doubt there's any real collector value so no pain there . If I looked long enough I'm sure there's a guy out there .
I have a pair of .451 cal 24" GM raw gunsmith blanks , a story of their own . I was trying to figure out the math for several things the "good idea fairy" brought me . Among other things I learned was why the the 760 Rem worked with only aesthetically more metal in it than the 410 870 ....... It's because there is actually more bolt face load in a 12 ga than in any of the 06' family . The math does this weird thing like the Taylor KO math where a 300 gr 45 Colts delivers a value higher than a 260 gr 454 .
Because of the thrust/breach face load math if the 12 ga is high then the 10 isn't getting any lighter . Even as a short BP round it will match everything ever loaded in a 2-3/4 12 ga .
While the 460 S&W might at it's extreme be hard on the action the barrels will be safe and I don't know really that it would hurt anything held to something like 45-70 TD levels of MV . I would think at 12# plus a 14-1500 fps MV 535 gr Postell would be pretty tame at nearly 3" OAL it shouldn't be a big deal to get that . 454 can't stress it and I get 6-7 cartridge choices .
Regulation will be an issue but I think I can engineer that out with 2 barrel bands and a wedge block arrangement on the one that also holds the front sight .
All of this proves I have too much time alone in my glass box .
Thoughts , ideas , suggestions , machine suggestions , "don't do it you'll shoot your eye out kid" .
On an unrelated note I'd also be content to trade it off for a naked action or a beater 110 Savage and do the barrel swap there .