Electric Batt Lawn mowers

CWLONGSHOT

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My mower now is a FRONT drive and Im fond of it. Just elevate wheels off ground to quick stop. The lever ratchets and locks. Only way to disengage is to kill mower with safety bar.
These electrics have a lever you hold for propulsion. (I believe) i like that better.

I really wish I could TRY first...

CW
 

Rick

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Well come on over . . . Free instruction included. :)

The Kobalt has a bar in front of the handle that turns on the power. It has a button for the wheel drive and another button for the blade. Let go of the bar and both the blade and wheel drive is instantly shut off.
 

Hawk

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My gas powered Toro Recycler, self propelled, has a kill bar that you have to hold down. You have to push the entire handle forward to engage the propulsion.
I just use a piece of Velcro tape to hold down the kill bar while I'm mowing and undo the tape to kill the mower.
I understand the reason for the kill bar. I had a grandfather that lost the tips of all four fingers on his right hand when he reached under the deck to try to raise it with the mower still running. He was not mechanically minded and had probably been over-served at the time.
I've got more sense than that.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Not so. Engine doesn't shut off. Without a blade break clutch, everything shuts down. Adds at least $100 to overall cost of mower.
 

Petrol & Powder

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When I was young I cut a lot of grass with el-cheapo mowers. Stamped sheet metal deck with a tubular steel handle. 4 little wheels bolted to the corners of the deck. (the "good" ;) ones had bearings and the "regular" ones had plastic centers). A 3.5 HP second generation Briggs & Stratton engine and a blade. The "high" quality mowers had a throttle control mounted on the handle; this usually broke after year or two and you disconnected the cable at the carburetor and used the lever on the carb to set the engine speed. No dead man switches, No safety cutoffs, No blade brakes of any type and you provided the propulsion. I still have all of my fingers and toes.

There was a contact on the throttle lever that grounded out the magneto to shut off the engine. If you pushed the lever beyond the "stop" detent the engine would not shut off. Eventually that function would just break completely and engine would not shut off until it ran out of gas. With those mowers you just carried a plastic handled screw driver in your back pocket and used the screw driver to short out the exposed end of the spark plug to the cylinder head to shut off the engine. It was important that you didn't use a wooden handled screw driver because damp wood isn't a good electrical insulator (voice of experience here).

The sheet metal deck would rust apart long before the engine would give out. It was cheaper to just buy another mower when that deck gave out. Then you had a spare engine, blade, handle and maybe a wheel or two. Craftsman mowers used slightly thicker sheet metal for the decks and would last longer than the K-mart mowers. The K-mart mowers cut the grass just as well and they were about 1/2 the price of the Craftsman mowers.

A carburetor kit for a Briggs & Stratton consisted of a couple of gaskets and a fuel diaphragm. It cost less than $2 and took about 15 minutes to install. The "I guess .......air filter?" was a piece of foam that you washed in gasoline. I don't recall ever buying a new one. You washed the one you had until it fell apart and then you stole one off of one of the spare B&S engines you had laying around.

If you hit a rock, stump or tree root and the blade stopped abruptly the Woodruff key between the crankshaft and flywheel would shear. The magneto would then be out of time and the engine wouldn't run. You had to pull the flywheel off and replace that key. That job was a PITA and sometimes the flywheel would be cracked at the keyway - That's when that second engine laying around was useful. :D

I look at these $400+ lawn mowers today with the safety devices, cast aluminum decks, OHV engines and all the other upgrades and I know they are far better tools than we had when I was young, but I'm not sure they are a better value for the money.
 
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popper

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A carburetor kit for a Briggs & Stratton consisted of a couple of gaskets and a fuel diaphragm -- with nothing but idle speed/fuel adjustment. They also had real metal cam followers.
Alway thought the ivory soap thing was silly till a friend and I held the rods for an old colored guy on the stream while he reeled in the fish. 5#rs on each (3-4) rod and he could only handle one at a time. Soap is float and chicken or big worm on the hook.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Depends on how your going to use it. Or in my case, beat it to death, in Rock-n-saw. I've owned exactly two lawnmowers since 1985. A self propelled Toro with the two cycle GTS engine and a Honda commercial self propelled with hydro-static transmission. Both had cast aluminum decks. Had both over twenty five years. Gave the Toro away, when parts were no longer available. Still have the Honda. Both started on the first pull, after all those years. Interesting to note, a comparable Honda commercial, no longer offered with a cast aluminum deck. It is only available in steel.

I brought the Honda with me to Arkansas. It's been inadvertently converted from a mulcher/bagger to a side discharge. The cast deck is not a fan of mowing rocks that seem to pop out of the ground from nowhere. Transmission is going, not worth fixing, due to the age. Just waiting for Rick to come and get it and possible engine swap, on the Snapper he owns, with rod knock. Based on Jon's recent swap on a Snapper he owned.

I recently bought another Honda but didn't invest in the commercial model, with a $1299 MSRP, to mow rocks and weeds. They can only be purchased at a authorized Honda dealer. We have none closer, than an hour a way. Lowe's or Home Depot are pretty much all we have. The dedicated mower places, only seem to want to sell the zero turn mowers.

I went with a 216 HHR series, steel deck and self propelled (a must have)............ a little over $400

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Honda-2...awn-Mower-with-Auto-Choke-HRN216VKA/308910379

I'm looking at mowers as throwaways, anymore. YMMV.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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I got up And went to HD & Lowes this am! I was there when they opened and found HD lacking bug time. They didnt have either of the GO's on display. They did have them in stock. They didn not have other batt operated tools Either. I was early so Ill excuse no associates around.

Lowes was across the st. They on the other hand had a dozen mowers setup for full view. There was an associate who imidiately offered to help and had some quick and seemingly knowledgeable Replies.

i did not buy either. But Ill be buying the Kobalt mower. I just prefer the steel to plastic. Im also forgoing the propelled. My lot is flat. Simply said its not needed. Plus saves 150$
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Thanks everyone!
 

fiver

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Kobalt is being associated with craftsman.
even some of their batteries will interchange now.
I'd look for more and more crossover in the future, hopingly craftsman coming up to kobalt's standards, but I'm going more along the lines of whichever one has the higher profit margin.
 

Petrol & Powder

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Speaking of cast aluminum decks, the old Lawnboy mowers had cast aluminum decks. They wouldn't rust but you could take a chunk out of it with a rock. In fact, a cracked deck was usually the demise of a Lawnboy. You could get someone to TIG weld it back together but that could cost more than an old mower was worth. Some people swore by the 2 stroke engine and some people swore at it !

The Honda OHV engines are industrial works of art and will run forever but you pay for that quality.

I think a plastic deck could actually be a good thing if it was the right kind of plastic. It wouldn't rust and it would likely take some abuse from rocks. Some plastics get brittle with age and exposure to sunlight, so it would really depend on the material used.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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Well I bought a mower!
But it is t a HD GO and its NOT a Kobalt!! But I did buy it at Lowes!!

I bought a Greenworks PRO model.

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Batt charged in about 90 min. Cut entire yard with maybe 50% propelled with battery to spare.
This company makes the Kobalt. Was almost 140$ cheaper with push and 75$ Cheaper as a Self propelled compared to the Kobalt. MORE savings over the GO @ HD!

Momma tried it and liked it! Wants the weed whacker now!!

CW
 
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